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02-13-2013, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Nobody is arguing that only top picks win cups. We're arguing that they are an important ingredient to most cup winning teams. I don't care if Lafleur isn't as important as Dryden or Robinson... fact is he's a huge part of that team, just like Lemieux, Modano or Staal.

(And actually Dryden was traded for as a prosepct too)

I'm not trying to argue that you can't get players any other way. We all know you can. Hell there HAS to be stars picked elsewhere because there's only so many top picks to go around.

The difference is that you can't count on those picks to turn into stars the way you can if you have multiple top picks. You are better off with 3 top five picks than you are with 15 picks from 11-30. Five times as many picks and you'll STILL wind up with fewer superstars. And finding them beyond the first round is like finding a needle in a haystack.

We wasted YEARS doing this. It got us nowhere. Why do you want to continue down this path when we've seen that it doesn't work?


We've already developed a culture of apathy here. We've developed a culture where 8th place is the bar for success. I'd much rather see a GM come in and work towards building a cup... we aren't risking anything but 8th place.

We have a franchise goalie because we won a onetime lottery with a top five pick. We had no business getting that pick and lucked out. He was our first top five in 20 years man! And.... he just happens to be our best player.

Yet for some reason you want to argue against rebuilding? Why?

It's not rebuilding man... As for Souray, again see what we dealt Rivet for. Yet somehow you're arguing that we couldn't have done better?

We didn't want to finish 9th. We wanted 8th so we held onto him. Then we missed and he left. That's the kind of short term thinking we saw for years and it's killed us.

Last year was no different. Our GM went for quick fixes and desperation moves designed to get us to 8th. He didn't care about the future. Fortunately he sucked at his job and we got a top 3 pick out of it but we still wasted assets and saddled ourselves with stupid contracts along the way.

Yeah dude, they are. We are squeezing the trade value out of these guys as we pursue 8th place and a 1st round knockout.

Building towards a cup is not the same as scrambling to make 8th. You have to take longer term moves if you want to win.

I love Price but we're not winning a cup this year dude...
lol yeah, teams do that, "aiming" at losing in the first round...

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