Is Mario Lemieux a bit overrated?
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02-14-2013, 01:59 AM
Join Date: Nov 2003
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close to 50% of his total Goals and Assists came from the POWERPLAY
- not that impressive when you look at the whole picture.
If you look in the top ES Goal Scoring Seasons - Lemieux is not even in the top 10.
In fact he has only led the league ONCE in ES GOALS!
All his His International stats are average
(except for the 87' playing with Gretzky and the ref's)
I have never seen the issue with a player who excelled on the power play. This was Lemieux, but it is crazy to suggest he wasn't just as good of a 5-on-5 player. The one thing I loved about Lemieux is that he would score in any situation and was a threat to do so:
1987-'88 70 goals - 38 S, 22 PP, 10 SH
1988-'89 85 goals - 41 ES, 31 PP, 13 SH
1992-'93 69 goals - 47 ES, 16 PP, 6 SH
1995-'96 69 goals - 30 ES, 31 PP, 8 SH
Those are his best goal scoring seasons. Put him on the ice in any situation and he scored. That's the Lemieux I remember for sure and this is one of the first time I've ever heard that become a knock on the man.
His goal scoring was rather spread out. He led the NHL in goals three times. He led the NHL in even strength goals one. Twice in power play goals and three times in shorthanded goals. Not to mention the only person to ever score a goal in 5 different ways in a game (ES, PP, SH, EN, penalty shot). Since when is this a bad thing?
As for your criticisms about him internationally, all I can say is that you should watch the Canada Cup in 1987 for starters. That will likely prevent you from making any comment about his international play. Plus take into account he was injured for the 1991 and 1996 World/Canada Cups in which I think he would have been the best player in each of them. Then was retired for the 1998 Olympics. Only after his comeback at the age of 36 did he play in the 2002 Olympics where he had 6 points in 5 games (not good?) and made a play that will be talked about for 100 years in the Gold medal game. This was an older Mario and he along with Yzerman and Sakic were THE keys to Canada winning (although Iginla showed up for the Gold medal game too).
In 2004 we saw an injury riddled Lemieux who was almost 39 play in the World Cup. He only played 26 more NHL games after this. He had a rather modest 5 points in 6 games but the line of Mario, Sakic and Iginla was the best in the tournament. Mario also got an assist in the opening minute of the final game. In both tournaments where Mario was old he still produced and didn't let his country down.
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