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02-15-2013, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bangers View Post
Not to sidetrack the thread, but ... Stevie Y?

Lidstrom was one of the main reasons for the "Detroit model" success (as was lucking out on Datsyuk and Zetterberg), but the primary catalyst for Detroit's success was when the team brought in Scotty Bowman and Yzerman realized that winning championships with solid 2-way play was better than scoring 150 points a year.
No. Detroit was at best an average team wit 5+ years of Stevie Y leading them.

All of a sudden Lidstrom comes to NA - and the team becomes an instant contender (Fedorov was also there before, with no results).
The man instantly changed the way the team played hockey. They became a puck possession team. His defense was sublime. No one noticed it because he wasn't absolutely pasting guys along the boards or making amazing recoveries (he never needed to; always in position).

Scotty Bowman made that team a winner - but they were still dominant beforehand. They were atop the standings and winning playoff rounds.

Detroit is a shade of its old self even when an old and fading Lidstrom retires. Imagine if he'd retired in 2007?

People came, people left - but Lidstrom remained. Detroit never really stopped being a contender until Lidstrom's play fell off (2010 onwards).

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