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02-16-2013, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rowdy Roddy Peeper View Post
That really doesn't explain the Kadri example, but moving on...
Sure it does.

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The point is that to a contender like the Pens, lower-ceiling guys like Tangradi reaching their potential is not worth dealing with their NHL birth pangs. If they can get their act together in the A and prove it nightly with limited NHL auditions, then they might stick.

We're not going to hand them roster spots while they sort it out.
Great org can develop talent while contending.

The last time I checked, DB reliance on vets only has lead to three straight playoff disappointments.

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Boychuk created more chances in his first game here than Tangradi did in his entire Penguin career. Because he is more skilled.

I'm not saying he's the answer in the top 6. But that should show just how unextraordinary a player/prospect Tangradi is.
How many points did he score?

Or anyone else paraded onto that line?

Tangradi had a good game playing on the fourth line, where he should of been all along, before he got benched.

Don't tell me they couldn't of kept him there since last season and kept winning.

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I didn't see the Jets game so I can't comment there, but I have no problem with how Engo is playing. I like Bort, but I don't see how he brings any more to the table than Engo at this point. And again, this goes back to lesser-skilled guys having to prove themselves over time in limited roles. Bort is not Bennett or Despres.

Despres' minutes have been cut because the top 4 is healthy again, which could not be more understandable. He still got a regular roster spot over more tenured defensemen to start the year, which used to be the knock against DB. You say "let's not pretend like he cut/benched a vet so BB could get a chance", but that's exactly what he did to keep Despres in the line-up.
It's obvious this team lacks a physical edge without Bort and Despres logging significant minutes. They are rookies, so obviously they can't make a difference, especially since one guy is a "meat and potatoes" player many people were ready to cast aside.

As for Despres getting in over Lovejoy... I mean... C'mon.

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The mere fact that BB is playing right now debunks that, Jig. If we believed everything DB's critics say about him, we'd be promoting Riley Holzapfel ahead of him. Or playing Jeffrey ahead of him.

Not the case.
DB has no options left. I don't see BB in the lineup as a sign he is changing. Despres perhaps, not BB.

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I like Vitale - he's been a great 4th liner for us. But he's still a young 4th liner and has to keep earning his spot, and I have no problem with that.
But TK doesn't?

Awesome message.

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Waiver-eligible prospect gets waived/traded for peanuts and talks about getting an opportunity in the new place that he didn't get in the old. Stop the ****ing presses.
I know this sounds out there, but guys who aren't high end prospects can actually help your team. I know the concept is whacked out, but I've seen it happen a few times... Maybe more.

Bort and Vitale are proof of that, when they aren't being benched.

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