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02-19-2013, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNudge View Post
That's not a excuse, look at Detroit. They've been very competitve the last 20 years and counting. What do they do each year ? They found a diamond in a rough. The problem is the scout and the gm since it's is job to improve is team from the ground up.
Detroit has a nice prospect pool right now, but who have they graduated in recent years? The last top-6 player they graduated was Franzen in 2004? Filppula/Hudler in 2002? No one in 2001, Filppula/Flash/Hudler in 2002. They got Howard and Quincey in 2003, Franzen in 2004 (overage), Kindl (not exactly a great first round pick), Helm, and Abdelkader in 2005, Emerton in 2006, Brendan Smith in 2007, who hasn't even established himself in the NHL, Nyquist in 2008 (not an established regular), and Tatar in 2009 (not an NHL regular, and Ferraro seems like a bust at 32). That's almost a decade of not so great drafting.

In that time, the Sharks have turned out Christian Ehrhoff (top-4 defenseman, arguably top-2), Ryane Clowe (top-6 powerforward), Joe Pavelski (1st liner), Matt Carle (top-4 defenseman, arguably top-2), Marc-Edouard Vlasic (top-2 defenseman), Jamie McGinn (top-6 winger), Justin Braun (fringe top-4 defenseman), Jason Demers (fringe top-4 defenseman, still has potential), Tommy Wingels (2nd/3rd line tweener, still has potential).

So it's not like you've blown us out of the water in terms of players drafted and playing in the NHL right now. Yes, you guys have had a couple of great drafts recently, but that's more a testament to Detroit's scouts, rather than a detriment to SJ's scouts.

Originally Posted by TheNudge View Post
Your right about getting great pick in the late round since they got Sean Kuraly in the 5th round. He should be something special. The big problem is they can't turn their 1st or 2nd round pick into something really good until now(Hertl). But they still need to improve alot to be competitve(prospect wise) Too many miss and not enough home runs.
That's because in the past 4 drafts, we've had 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders, and we traded Coyle away. Hello.

Originally Posted by Jag68Sid87 View Post
This is a rather unfair comparison.
His strength along the boards and bullish nature driving the net is vaguely reminiscent, but you're right, it's quite unfair.

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