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02-20-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Foppa2118 View Post
And aren't you worried about trading for a guy like Boychuk in return for O'Reilly? Do we really need to be taking gambles on this trade like that?

Maybe he could be better in some ways than MDZ, but I feel like you guys are really painting him with an unfair brush, while using the absolute top end of other players and prospects as comparables. Barrie and Elliott for example. Barrie just scored his first NHL goal the other day, and his first NHL point a few games ago.

MDZ is 22 and Barrie is 21. They're a year apart in the draft. MDZ has a 37 and a 41 point season under his belt already. Why is it you are so confident, and can be so patient with a guy like Barrie, but MDZ is the final product already and since he isn't Kyle Cumiskey in the skating department, or EJ in his own zone, he isn't worth trading for? He broke a much deeper blueline, and one of the deepest in the league two years ago. Barrie is just now starting to fit in, and both he and Elliott obviously still have big concerns with their defensive game.

Apart from them being our prospects, where is the evidence that makes you believe they'll be at or above MDZ's final product when he fully develops? He was better defensively and offensively two years ago, than what Barrie is right now.

I'd like to remind people the wonders this team has done with players who had their skating criticized. I don't know if they have a special guy or girl they go to, but Stastny, O'Reilly, Landy, Stewart, even Shattenkirk I believe at one point had concerns over their skating ability.
Ok first of all, that's Trouba's FLOOR. That means if all goes wrong, that's what we get.

As far as your second comment, what can I tell you? I don't like his game!!! Everytime I watch him, I'm underwhelmed. Do you want me to lie and say I don't see things this way? It's a matter of opinion. I know MDZ plays tons of minutes on the PP (over 4mins per game on avg last season | over 3 mins per game on avg this season) but the Rangers PP is terrible! Last in the NHL so far this year and 23rd overall last year. So, I just don't know what to tell you except that I absolutely trust my instincts when it comes to this sort of thing.

Maybe we'll look back on this thread in 2-3 years and the trade will have happened and it will be a positive thing or maybe the trade won't have happened and we'll be glad it didn't. We'll see.

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