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02-22-2013, 05:59 PM
Commander Enigma
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Originally Posted by DenverNATION View Post
Avalanche were 8th in the league when they won the cup the 2nd time. 18,007 people on average. That's not even 100 more people than what the Nuggets are doing right now. Go back in time 10 years to when the Nuggets were 100x worse than the Avalanche is right now and thy were 20th in the league compared to the Avalanche's 27th, getting 200 or so more people a game. Nuggets were still 20th in the NBA while winning 17 games I believe too? The year before they got Melo? Getting a few hundred more people than the Avs are pulling right now.

Avalanche no doubt peaked higher than the Nuggets have. Finishing 8th one year is something the Nuggets never have, nor will ever do IMO. Basketball is also a far more popular sport in America tho and far harder to compete with. We Avalanche fans are pretty spoiled. Since they've came to Denver, we've been stacked with talent. Joe Sakic just isn't an All-Star, he's an All-Time great. Patrick Roy might be the best goalie of all time, Foppa? Hejduk winning the Richard trophy.

NBA doesn't have as much parody as the NHL, people know this. Nuggets have been out of the first round ONCE this entire decade. In the past 12 years, Nugs have made one playoff run and the city went crazy. One of the best stadiums the entire playoff runs. Nuggets are probably never going to do anything unless they eventually tank and land a superstar ...

IMO that's why the Nuggets are above the Avs in this town. They've had comparable or better numbers since '00 when the talent isn't anywhere close to the same. They are a far less successful of a franchise than the Avalanche, even if Stan is a ******.

Just feels like they are more known in Denver, just my opinion tho. I love all 3 and the Broncos are the powerhouse
A fairly obvious flaw in your number crunching is the fact that you are not factoring in seating capacity. The Avs were ranked 8th in the league in 2001, but they were filling the arena to capacity (in the middle of a league record sellout streak). You seem to be making a big issue of the Nuggets getting close to that number now even though the seating capacity for basketball is 1000+ higher, and the Avs are unable to get a higher attendance than the 18,007 figure. Try looking at percentage of seating capacity filled and the Nuggets would be looking at 90% compared to 100% with the Avs at their peak.

Also you aren't factoring in the already raised issue of ticket prices. The Nuggets are still a more affordable ticket, and more so in the lean pre-Melo years. I've actually been to more Nuggets games than Avs games for that reason alone. (all things being equal I'd go to an Avs game 9 out of 10 times).

I do think more casual fans are drawn to basketball, but the disparity probably isn't that significant in Denver. Winning draws in more casual fans than anything.

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