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02-22-2013, 05:54 PM
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Superficially, sure Goring's offensive numbers are similar to Elias'.

In terms of +/-, which isn't exactly the be-all-end-all but is still of some importance...

Elias is +197 on his career. Goring is -20.

Broken down further. Overall with Los Angeles, Goring was -17. With the Islanders, going by full seasons only:
- +4 in 78 games in 1980-81. That was second-worst among regular forwards, ahead only of Steve Tambellini, who apparently was trying to tank his own career well ahead of an actual franchise. Five forwards were +25 or better.

- -3 in 1981-82. He was the only - player on the entire team, and among regular forwards outscored only Billy Carroll.

- +10 in 1982-83. This put him 5th among forwards.

- +9 in 1983-84. This was 6th among forwards.

All told, he was +16 on the Island. Combined 1980-81 to 1983-84, he was 18th among Islanders regulars, 19th if you include Bob Lorimer.

Not taking a stand here, just sayin'.

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