Thread: Proposal: Pit-Dal Ryder
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02-23-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 View Post
If all Ryder can return is a 2nd round pick (from a good team) then I'd rather just keep him for our own playoff push.

I don't mean for this to come across as rude Pens fans, just my view from the outside of your team's situation. You're constantly in the thick of things contention-wise because of Crosby and Malkin. You now have a legit goal scoring winger for one of those centers (Neal) but because of the makeup of your team it seems unless or until you guys develop your own scoring winger to compliment what Neal brings to the table, you'll constantly be in search of a little added scoring punch to really make noise in the playoffs and get back to the SCF. Your organization is adept at developing defensemen yet seems to get somewhat opposite results developing wingers.

I know you'd like to have your cake and eat it too, and I'm not trying to over-sell Ryder's abilities, but I would think a guy who is a proven playoff performer that scored 35 goals a season ago would be a pretty tantalizing weapon to add for a playoff run. A mid/low 2nd round pick is not equally tantalizing to me as a Stars fan given that Grossmann, a solid but unspectacular defensive defenseman with an expiring contract, netted a 2nd round pick. Ryder is quite a bit more valuable as a trade deadline commodity than Grossmann.

I understand the desire to pay as little as possible but if the best being offered is a Pittsburgh 2nd round pick I really hope Nieuwendyk either finds a better offer elsewhere or just keeps him for ourselves.
I'm not interested in paying a 1st-round pick for someone like Ryder. It's nothing personal, and I don't disagree with the overall sentiment of your post. The Penguins should be willing to go all out to win cups in the CONCUSSION ERA.

That said, you have to spend wisely. I think that 1st, or those shiny D Prospects, would be better spent on players better - or under control longer than - Ryder.

I also think there's some miscommunication on just what these players being thrown around are. Specifically Dumoulin and Morrow. While the Penguins fans may be overvaluing them, to us, they are two nearly NHL ready guys and at least one, perhaps two, of them will be in the NHL full time next year. And both within 2 years.

Both of these guys will fill holes and come in at a price that allows the Pens to continue to employ players like Crosby and Malkin at $8.7MM cap hits. They might be traded, but not for rentals. Just wanted to underline something

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