Thanks for screwing us over (JVR)
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02-23-2013, 02:10 PM
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Originally Posted by
Giroux tha Damaja
From memory he had 19 points in 21 games before his injury that year. He did earn them on the wing of Giroux and across from jagr who were both killing it. So that should matter in the evaluation of it. But still, I'm convinced that most of the people here are pretending there was no way JVR could've succeeded in Philly, or that he never showed his ability here are just trying to make themselves feel better after losing the trade. They're not going to see the facts because they don't want to. As for me I was annoyed when it happened and I'm not any more annoyed now because I was pretty confident JVR was going to have a good year.
I agree with this.
Luke Schenn is a very fun player to watch (throwing all those big hits) and a pretty good defensive defenseman, but his value was not and is not now comparable to James Van Riemsdyk. If we didn't have Brayden Schenn on our team, I don't think Luke Schenn is in Orange and Black right now. It seems like we took a hit in value to unite the brothers.
Some of my fellow Flyers fans will continue to describe this trade as a "win-win" regardless of whether JVR puts up 30, 40, or 50 goals because they are incapable of criticizing Holmgren and admitting that maybe he made a mistake and we got the short end of a trade. But I won't agree with that. We threw a 2nd round pick to Dallas and acquired Nicklas Grossmann and for my money, I don't see a noticeable difference in the level of play of Luke Schenn and Grossmann.
And while some people will say "Schenn is only 23, he'll improve", that whole "he's young" excuse only works when the guy you're talking about has some tool that he's not using to the fullest advantage. If someone can inform me which of Schenn's tools (shot, speed, passing ability, etc.) that he's not using to his fullest, I'd love to hear it. The truth is, he's not a #1 defenseman, he was never thought of as an offensive dynamo #1 defenseman, and he never will be a true #1 defenseman.
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