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02-23-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Drydenwasthebest View Post
Actually, Read for Diaz is only reasonable in a vacuum. In reality, Montreal does not want another small skilled forward, we have enough. Montreal needs a Simmonds type far more than a Read type. There is absolutely no interest in moving Diaz for Read, especially with Read being injured. We need size and if Diaz continues to play as well as he has, he will easily be worth far more than Matt Read by the trade deadline. Matt Read isn't even as valuable as David Desharnais, and you should see the peanuts people claim he is worth.
Matt Read is like a weird hybrid of Simon Gagne and Danny Briere.

I won't claim to know all about David Desharnais, but Read is a very capable (and looking to be consistent) 50 point winger/center.

Don't do Read any disservice. With the right linemates he could hit 60-65 in a peak year. Desharnais value seems reasonable, but I'm not up on Desharnais' game style. I don't notice him much when I watch Montreal games. Read is fast, defensively responsible, and chips in offense. You can't ask for much more.

He's the prototypical 2nd line winger, just like Diaz seems to be evolving into that solid #3.

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Simmonds is definitely better than Eller, so far. However, I think the gap is smaller than many might realize. Eller has been hampered by playing behind Plekanec and DD, and will also have Galchenyuk eating center time from him. Watch Eller play, and you will see that he is far better than his numbers indicate (go watch the work he did on the Habs' third goal tonight to see the kind of player he is). Sort of like Couturier. Out of curiosity, who do you think is more valuable to Philly, Simmonds or Couturier?
Right now it's a very reasonable argument that Simmonds is OUR BEST PLAYER. Giroux, when on his game, is on another level as we all know, but what Simmonds has is unique. I think the gap between him and Eller is pretty large. I don't think it's arguable in any way. Some people don't realize just how good Simmonds is. It's not about points. He makes things happen. Like how Giroux makes things happen with his playmaking, Simmonds makes things happens with his stop-at-nothing play style. Seriously, I'm comparing Simmonds' ability to make things happen with Giroux's ability to get the puck to anyone anywhere at anytime. It's that awesome to watch.

Simmonds vs. Couturier is a really hard argument. Couturier, right now, is all potential offensively, but he's arguably the best defensive player on the team right now including Timonen/Coburn/Schenn.

Simmonds vs. Couturier in terms of importance to the Flyers is slanted slightly towards Simmonds right now. A few years from now, when Couts' offense comes in, he'll probably overtake Simmonds slightly.

I put Simmonds above Hartnell, Voracek, Briere, Read, and Schenn. Schenn and Voracek though want a say in this though and have their own arguments to make as far as importance.

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