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03-02-2013, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alklha View Post
The new CBA details were sent to every team and make things very clear. The passage that is relevent here is...



Signing a player to an offersheet does not place him on your RFA list at any point, so in this situation he has to pass through waivers. There is no ambiguity there. As Bob McKenzie stated, you can't sign a player to a offersheet and then leave his contract in no mans land, waivers becomes an automatic process as soon as the other team doesn't match.

Calgary would have filed a grievance if ROR had ended up on waivers, but they wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. I assume that the Flames are looking for a replacement GM, because Jay Feaster has got to get the sack sometime soon for making that kind of mistake. The fact he still think that signing another teams RFA to an offersheet puts him onto his teams RFA list at any point is mindblowing.
This is the full reading of the CBA

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13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside
North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his
Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs)
only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the
Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or
Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.
No where in there does it say the player must go through waivers immediately after being signed. All it says is the player may play in the NHL after clearing waivers. If he never gets put on waivers then he can never play. Mckenzie is speculating just like everyone else because he does not know what would happen to the contract if ROR was never put on the active roster. It is the same thing as the Gomez/Redden situation at the begining of the season, neither one of them were going to be on their teams active roster (MON/NYR) nor were they going to be sent some where else. The NHL had to step in and make a special ruling to allow teams to buy out players before the season started. No where in the CBA does it say a team must activate a player upon signing them. A team in theory could have 20 players on their roster and 30 other players sitting at home getting paid. Of course the PA would file a grievance if the flames made ROR sit at home all year while getting paid, but once again it would be up to the NHL to make a ruling as to whether Calgary could do that or if Calgary would be forced to put him on waivers. Neither the NHL nor the NHLPA anticipated a situation like this ever happening so there is nothing that directly relates to it in CBA. However the CBA does allow teams to suspend players with or without pay which is what the flames could have done the grievance by the PA would be that the flames do not have cause to suspend ROR. While Mckenzie is very knowledgeable and is one of the best hockey reporters there is he has not said anything like a 'source from the league tells me..." until that happens anything he says is no different than any other person speculating. He could end up being correct but until the league releases something nobody knows.

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