Thread: Great Britain: Hockey in Britain part 3
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03-06-2013, 05:31 AM
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J17 Vs Proclamation
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Originally Posted by Imaginary Threats View Post
UK B league junior ice hockey is basically schmuck level, I don't like to say it, but it's true, I would know, I played it. It really is no better than school level football or rugby, but obviously you've never seen it, so you didn't know that.
Beside the point is one is structured and affliated, the other not, these are extremely medicore complexes of talent.

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Originally Posted by Imaginary Threats View Post
I hate to use the age old typical HF argument "you have never played the game" but here, I feel I have to. I've played many sports over the years at structured level, I've played club level rugby union, club football, club cricket, and a bit of inter-school competition tennis, field hockey, as well as obviously ice hockey and a bit of roller hockey. Ice hockey has by far the largest requirement of skills and cognitive ability than all of the others, to play at a basic structured level. Like I said earlier, the lowest level of structured junior hockey is no better than school football. Of course there are other sports that require more skill, but they are not the mainstream sports, and are usually not team sports (first examples I can think of are F1 driving and gymnastics). But of course that's just like, my opinion, man.
Cognitive? At what level? Your level? Competent level? High level? This discussion is framed within players needing to start early to become relatively high end players. Such a concept is common practice in most sports. Ice hockey might have harder basic skills to develop (Since they are in effect not natural skills to us), however to reach an elite level at the sport, you've given no data or information to suggest ice hockey actually is harder. Your experiences of playing extremely low level football and medicore structured ice hockey niether confirms nor denies that salient point ; you aren't remotely close to fitting an example that complies with the hypothesis.

If you want to say ice hockey is a harder sport to initially pick up over football, tennis etc at a basic level ... i agree. What you're actually trying to imply is that ice hockey is a harder sport to play and develop to an elite level .... which is an unfounded argument.

Finally, these sports that have more "skill" are observed through your definition of what "skill" is. What is skill? What do you define it as? Anticipation, hand eye co-ordination, speed, stamina, mental capacity, strength? Skill is an ambigious term.

You're right, i've never played ice hockey, and likely never will. Of course, if i had, my experiences at a low level in a variety of sports implemented as a cross comparison is basically useless when assessing this topic. It would be an opinion formed through weak experiences and a personal bias orientated around what as an athlete i am genetically and mentally more suited for. I would be more suited to football than ice hockey because of my body type. Not much one can glean from that. Hence your experiences really are of little use when trying to tackle such a broad question ; a question that is arbitary to begin with.

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