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03-07-2013, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring Back Scuderi View Post
What I have so far, will edit in more until I get too tired.

Gretzky 147.7
Esposito 116.8
Lemieux 115.6
Mikita 104.7
Beliveau 104.5
Dionne 99.1
Cowley 96.1
Sakic 96.0
Morenz 94.6
Boucher 91.0

Thornton 90.4
Yzerman 90.1
Trottier 89.8
Lach 89.4
Stewart 88.6
Apps 88.5
Oates 87.8
Bentley 87.3
Messier 86.6
Ullman 85.9

Francis 85.7
Forsberg 85.3
Ratelle 85.0
Barry 84.7
Delvecchio 83.9
Stastny 83.2
Hawerchuk 83.2
Clarke 83.2
Schmidt 82.7
Richard 82.7

Perreault 81.6
Sittler 81.1
Sundin 81.0
Savard 80.5
Turgeon 80.1
Gilmour 79.3
Lindros 79.2
Fedorov 79.0
Kennedy 78.1
Roenick 78.0

Nicholls 76.3
undrafted 75.9
B. Richards 75.2
Federko 75.1
Lafontaine 74.6
Weight 74.6
Watson 73.9
Sedin 73.7
Weiland 73.6
Lecavalier 73.3

H. Smith 73.1
Datsyuk 73.0
Lemaire 71.7
Keon 71.0
McKenney 70.9
Brind'Amour 70.2
Goyette 70.1
Nieuwendyk 67.7
B. Smith 67.3
MacLeish 65.8

Mahovlich 67.5
Crosby 65.0
Muller 60.8
Malkin 58.7
Hmmm...I like the early results of my system. It seems to handle pre-expansion guys like Boucher, Stewart and Ullman in a way that more closely conforms to the established consensus on these players, while pushing 80's stars Stastny, Hawerchuk and Savard out of the top-20, which I think is also appropriate. I also like that it has Beliveau ahead of Dionne, and with a little gap, and that it has Gretzky relatively further ahead than that "other" system.

Nice work, BBS. Keep it up.

edit: cutting the analysis down to top-7 seasons would probably remedy the strangeness of seeing Joe Sakic's name ahead of Howie Morenz, which is about the only clunker I can see with the results so far, so long as one slaps a fat war years asterisk on Bill Cowley. Like I said, top-10 seasons is biased in favor of modern players with great scoring longevity, of whom Joe Sakic is pretty much the poster child. Cutting the analysis down to top-7 seasons would also pull up the numbers of guys like Max Bentley and Marty Barry, who both looked suspiciously low on seventies' list (not sure yet where they fall in my rating, but unless they show up very soon, they are too low, IMO). It's just not realistic to expect pre-expansion (and especially pre-war) guys to have had legitimate ten season peaks.

edit to the edit: ah...I see your updated list now. I dunno. Every GM will have to judge for himself, but I am already very happy with those results, and that is before we cut it down to seven seasons (ten seasons brutalizes not only pre-expansion guys, but also Crosby and Malkin...lol). Thanks for putting in the work here.


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