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03-07-2013, 08:21 AM
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Frolov 6'3
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Last 20 games? He has played in 18 games during this his rookie season.


Muzzin ranks 3rd among all NHL rookie D in scoring with 7.
He ranks 2nd among all rookie D men in +/- with +6.

Here are the stats of Muzzin's last 7 games. I chose to start here because this is where/when he began seeing a significant increase in his ice time. To me he is doing very well for a guy who projects to be a 4/6 dman who can skate pretty well, play a little physically and pitch in on O from time to time.

MAR 5 '13 STL @ LAK 2 1 3 2 23:06
MAR 4 '13 NSH @ LAK 0 0 0 1 18:11
MAR 2 '13 LAK @ VAN 0 1 1 0 22:43
FEB 27 '13 DET @ LAK 0 0 0 1 19:11
FEB 25 '13 ANA @ LAK 1 0 1 0 20:53
FEB 23 '13 COL @ LAK 0 0 0 1 19:15
FEB 20 '13 LAK @ CGY 0 0 0 -1 18:05

He is a rookie and rookie's, especially D rookies are prone to making mistakes as they learn their way in the NHL. Should we expect Muzzin to play like he was a veteran or had played more than 28 games over 2 NHL seasons or should we except him for what he is.

Muzzin is proving he not only belongs in the NHL but with proper guidance he can become a solid 4/6 dman on an excellent team and that is enough for me.

By the way, here are Muzzins last 20 games.


MAR 5 '13 STL @ LAK 2 1 3 2 23:06
MAR 4 '13 NSH @ LAK 0 0 0 1 18:11
MAR 2 '13 LAK @ VAN 0 1 1 0 22:43
FEB 27 '13 DET @ LAK 0 0 0 0 19:11
FEB 25 '13 ANA @ LAK 1 0 1 0 20:53
FEB 23 '13 COL @ LAK 0 0 0 1 19:15
FEB 20 '13 LAK @ CGY 0 0 0 -1 18:05
FEB 19 '13 LAK @ EDM 0 0 0 0 16:05
FEB 17 '13 LAK @ CHI 0 0 0 0 15:49
FEB 15 '13 CBJ @ LAK 0 0 0 0 15:49
FEB 7 '13 LAK @ NSH 0 0 0 0 15:45
FEB 5 '13 LAK @ CBJ 0 0 0 0 9:49
FEB 2 '13 LAK @ ANA 0 0 0 -1 12:21
JAN 31 '13 NSH @ LAK 0 0 0 0 15:58
JAN 28 '13 VAN @ LAK 0 0 0 0 13:56
JAN 26 '13 LAK @ PHX 1 1 2 4 11:57
JAN 24 '13 LAK @ EDM 0 0 0 0 7:51
JAN 22 '13 LAK @ COL 0 0 0 0 15:23
NOV 17 '10 CBJ @ LAK 0 0 0 -1 9:06
NOV 13 '10 NYI @ LAK 0 0 0 0 16:14

That makes him +5 over his past 20 games with 7 points instead of +6 with 7 points. Still better than average for NHL rookie Dmen who have proven that they have NHL skillsets and that they belong in the NHL.

Nobody has come in and said that Muzzin is the next Orr or Coffey or Stevens or Robinson or anyone else. Only that he (JM) is doing pretty well while being forced to come in and help replace two highly thought of established veteran NHL Dmen.

He makes his mistakes but he has proven that he belongs out there and is doing a good job. He is a rookie and projects to be a 4/6dman so at his best his upside is as a third pairing Dman who can play up if needed and become a solid addition to an NHL team.

Finally there is one more telling stat for rookie Dmen and that is penalty minutes. Muzzin has a total of 6 penalty minutes in 28 NHL games. If he were struggling so mightily at his position he would more than likely be raking up the penalty minutes as that is what tends to happen to dmen when they are struggling.

Muzzin is doing just fine, he has a way to go but he is doing fine.
When I wrote that down, I was thinking, shall I look it up. It's somewhere around 20 games but who cares about that.

I guess I was wrong, you really need to point out that it were 18 games ?

A solid 5/6th defenseman was fine with me too. Like I expected the new Orr. Yes he's a rookie, yes they make mistakes. We dont need to discuss that. Yet not every rookie will ever become a reliable defenseman. You act like every rookie needs some time to adjust and will be fine later on. Heck, you seem to think every good Kings prospect will become a NHL player at one point.

You can come up with all kind of stats of ice-time and +/- but I watch the games. He couldnt even the handle the puck in most games. Didnt use his body (has been better lately). bad positioning, bad defensively. He was absolutely not a reliable 5th/6th defenseman or somewhat close. Muzzin has proved he can have a great game or two and that's about it so far. But again, I dont expect that level of play of him because that's not how I view him. The thing that annoyed me the most is that he's struggling with the puck, a basic hockey skill. All Kings players have entered the offensive zone, time to do some damage, Muffin got the puck, nobody even close to him, puck gone...line change...


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