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03-08-2013, 02:17 PM
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SaintPatrick33
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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
Surprised it took this long to mention him. But you also have to include Rejean Houle. Tremblay was gone by '97, but Houle was in Montreal for another 3 years after that. Let's look at Houle's mishaps. We'll start with 1st round draft picks:


1996- Matt Higgins, who only played 57 games over 4 years and only scored 1 goal. Passed up on Marco Sturm and Danny Briere.

1997- Jason Ward, wasn't even a Canadiens regular until 2003-04. Passed up on Marian Hossa(oddly enough drafted his brother 3 years later) and Brenden Morrow.

1998- Eric Chouinard, out of the league after 4 seasons. Passed up on Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, Simon Gagne, and Scott Gomez.

1999- no 1st round pick, but drafted Alexander Buturlin in round 2. He never played an NHL game. Passed up on Mike Commodore and Jordan Leopold.

2000- Ron Hainsey and Marcel Hossa- Hainsey was not as much of a fail since he's still in the league right now, but he didn't even suit up for the Habs until the 2002-03 season. Hossa didn't even become an NHL regular until 5 years later. Passed up on Alex Frolov, Brad Boyes, Steve Ott, and Justin Williams.


Now with the trades:


-Patrick Roy and Mike Keane to Colorado for Jocelyn Thibault, Andrei Kovalenko, and Martin Rucinsky(1995)- Roy and Keane lead the Avs to the Cup that very season. Thibault didn't play poorly given the circumstances, but he was far from great. Kovalenko was traded in the offseason and scored a career high 32 goals his first season out of Montreal. Rucinsky played decent for Montreal.

-Pierre Turgeon, Rory Fitzpatrick, and Craig Conroy to St. Louis for Murray Baron and Shayne Corson(1996)- Turgeon started with 11 points in 9 games and ended up scoring 134 goals over his next 5 seasons. Fitzpatrick was no loss, but Conroy almost immediately developed into an excellent defensive forward with a nice scoring touch. On the flipside, Baron was gone at season's end and Corson only had 1 decent season until he left for Toronto 3 years later.

-Mark Recchi to Philadelphia for Dainus Zubrus(1999)- Recchi was simply having an off year coming off back to back 30+ goal seasons. Goes to Philly and scores 20+ goals every year for 7 consecutive seasons.

-Vincent Damphousse to San Jose for 3 draft picks(1999)- one pick was a first rounder who turned out to be Marcel Hossa. The other 2 never played a game in the NHL. Trading Damphousse wasn't outrageous since he was going to be a free agent and didn't want to lose him for nothing. Fair enough. Damphousse was in the middle of a second consecutive mediocre season. First season in San Jose, he put up 70 points which was his highest in 3 years. He scored 20+ goals in 3 of his first 4 seasons in San Jose.

-1st round pick to New York Islanders for Trevor Linden(1999)- Linden completely bombed in Montreal and was gone after 1 1/2 seasons. Only thing that eases the pain a little bit was the 1st rounder turned out to be Branislav Mezei, who never scored more than 7 points in a season and only played in 7 seasons.

-Vladimir Malakhov to New Jersey for Sheldon Souray(2000)- The initial trade was supposed to be Patrice Brisebois for Sergei Brylin. The Devils had accepted, just waiting for Brisebois to waive his no-trade clause. Brisebois refused and the traded was changed. Malakhov was the Habs top d-man, putting up 36 goals-72 assists-108 points the prior 3 seasons and was +12. Malakhov ends up helping the Devils win the Cup and Souray was just a better version of Brisebois...when he was healthy.
Truth be told, I don't think Tremblay is necessarily a "bad" coach, it's just that his stint in Montreal was a disaster. When Ronald Corey tabbed him to coach the Habs he had 0 experience coaching. He had gone straight from playing to the announcer's booth and hadn't been so much as an assistant coach on a pee-wee team before taking over Montreal. From everything I've heard Tremblay learned from the plethora of mistakes made in Montreal and was a very good assistant coach for Jacques Lemaire.

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