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03-11-2013, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thallis View Post
If you honestly believe this, you need to take a good look at the Norris's history and the recent winners. Karlsson's defense was definitely average last year, but his numbers were eye popping. I don't think he deserved to win it, but his offense was on a completely different level than any other defender, and it is an all around award, so both factor in.

Agreed with a lot of what has been said, Pietro has been joining the rush to much and getting caught down low way too often and we're getting burned for it. He's also been way more turnover prone than what he showed the past two years and just seems off in our defensive zone. Shattenkirk hasn't gotten the assignments Pietrangelo has this season, but from what he's shown he's been a much better player. I find it funny that while Karlsson was still playing he looked more like Petro did last year and Pietro looked like Karlsson of last year.
In the past 15 years, the Norris winner has averaged 3rd overall in the points race for defensemen. If you throw out the top and the bottom scores, it drops to below 2.5. There simply isn't a question that the Norris is currently only contended for by the top offense producing defensemen.

One has to go back over 20 years to find a defensive defenseman who won it.

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