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03-12-2013, 02:33 PM
Hipster Doofus
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Originally Posted by Man Bear Pig View Post
Certainly not here, okay pal, I'd love to debate baseball with you. Moneyball is the title of the book, it's also the term used to describe the market inefficiencies. If you choose to use another term, that's great. Boston used high OBP guys like Youkilis and Ortiz, while Beane was "buying" runs and wins and using far more advanced statistics that others weren't because of the old school mindset. All GM's are and were aware of advanced statistics but back then chose to ignore them and some still do. It's all about market inefficiency. Boston drafted and picked up high OBP players but without the payroll they had, no title. The payroll was the reason they won before anything. Completely different approach from Bean's.
And what metrics was he buying those runs and wins with?
Originally Posted by Man Bear Pig View Post
The post below answers your question. The RedSox bailed on the moneyball approach and went the way of their rivals, the Yankees. Spend tons of cash and pray for the best.

Whats that? I thought you said they looked at OBP guys? Perhaps they didn't bail, but maybe, just maybe, you never read anything about stats besides the blurbs in Moneyball. Theo Epstein is a confirmed follower of using advanced stats to help field better teams. Not even sure why you're trying to argue against that.

He just hates Moneyball because it turned what he considered "proprietary information" into public information.

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