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03-15-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by quoipourquoi View Post
Which means easier matchups for offense (like Sakic saw when defenders matched up against Forsberg specifically).
Except Sakic played on the PP with Forsberg.

YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1992-93Mario LemieuxC60961.60
1992-93Steve YzermanC84871.04
1992-93Alexander MogilnyR77791.03
1992-93Pat LaFontaineC84830.99
1992-93Teemu SelanneR84830.99
1992-93Kevin StevensL72670.93
1992-93Adam OatesC84780.93
1992-93Luc RobitailleL84760.90
1992-93Jaromir JagrR81710.88
1992-93Wayne GretzkyC45380.84
1992-93Pavel BureR83680.82
1992-93Mark MessierC75570.76
1992-93Doug GilmourC83630.76
1992-93Alexei ZhamnovC68490.72
1992-93Dino CiccarelliR82530.65
1992-93Sergei FedorovC73470.64
1992-93Paul Coffey (LA)D50270.54
1992-93Phil HousleyD80410.51
1992-93Keith TkachukC83330.40
1992-93Paul Coffey (DET)D3090.30
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1993-94Eric LindrosC65671.03
1993-94Mario LemieuxC22221.00
1993-94Sergei FedorovC82810.99
1993-94Cam NeelyR49470.96
1993-94Steve YzermanC58520.90
1993-94Jaromir JagrR80700.88
1993-94Adam OatesC77620.81
1993-94Wayne GretzkyC81620.77
1993-94Pavel BureR76580.76
1993-94Doug GilmourC83600.72
1993-94Ray SheppardR82570.70
1993-94Alexei ZhamnovC61420.69
1993-94Keith PrimeauL78530.68
1993-94Joe SakicC84570.68
1993-94Valeri KamenskyL76510.67
1993-94Slava KozlovL77510.66
1993-94Ron FrancisC82520.63
1993-94Mats SundinC84530.63
1993-94Teemu SelanneR51310.61
1993-94Dino CiccarelliR66370.56
1993-94Paul CoffeyD80410.51
1993-94Keith TkachukC84390.46
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1994-95Eric LindrosC46461.00
1994-95Mikael RenbergR47450.96
1994-95Jaromir JagrR48450.94
1994-95Ron FrancisC44370.84
1994-95Alexei ZhamnovC48400.83
1994-95John LeclairL46370.80
1994-95Joe SakicC47370.79
1994-95Sergei FedorovC42310.74
1994-95Luc RobitailleL46340.74
1994-95Peter ForsbergC47340.72
1994-95Keith PrimeauL45320.71
1994-95Mark MessierC46300.65
1994-95Owen NolanR46300.65
1994-95Ray SheppardR43270.63
1994-95Teemu SelanneR45280.62
1993-94Dino CiccarelliR42260.62
1994-95Keith TkachukC48290.60
1994-95Wendel ClarkL37220.59
1994-95Paul CoffeyD45260.58
1994-95Pavel BureR44240.55
1994-95Wayne GretzkyC48230.48
1994-95Slava KozlovL46210.46
1994-95Valeri KamenskyL40170.43
1994-95Steve YzermanC47190.40
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1995-96Jaromir JagrR82951.16
1995-96Mario LemieuxF70731.04
1995-96Eric LindrosC73751.03
1995-96Alexander MogilnyR79710.90
1995-96Peter ForsbergC82700.85
1995-96Sergei FedorovC78650.83
1995-96Ron FrancisC77630.82
1995-96Teemu Selanne (WPG)R51400.78
1995-96Mark MessierC74580.78
1995-96Joe SakicC82620.76
1995-96Teemu Selanne (TOT)R79590.75
1995-96Paul KariyaL82610.74
1995-96John LeclairL82600.73
1995-96Keith TkachukC76540.71
1995-96Teemu Selanne (ANA)R28190.68
1995-96Wayne GretzkyC80540.68
1995-96Claude LemieuxR79530.67
1995-96Slava KozlovL82530.65
1995-96Valeri KamenskyL81520.64
1995-96Pat LaFontaineC76490.64
1995-96Steve YzermanC80500.63
1995-96Igor LarionovC69430.62
1995-96Alexei ZhamnovC58310.53
1995-96Adam DeadmarshR78400.51
1995-96Keith PrimeauF74330.45
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1996-97Eric LindrosC52561.10
1996-97Jaromir JagrR63671.06
1996-97Mario LemieuxC76791.04
1996-97John LeclairL82810.99
1996-97Teemu SelanneR78760.97
1996-97Paul KariyaL69610.88
1996-97Peter ForsbergC65530.82
1996-97Wayne GretzkyC82660.80
1996-97Mark MessierC71550.77
1996-97Alexander MogilnyF76550.72
1996-97Steve YzermanC81570.70
1996-97Ron FrancisC81540.67
1996-97Pavel BureR63400.63
1996-97Sergei FedorovC74450.61
1996-97Brendan Shanahan (DET)L79480.61
1996-97Valeri KamenskyL68400.59
1996-97Igor LarionovC64350.55
1996-97Joe SakicC65350.54
1996-97Slava KozlovL75360.48
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1997-98Paul KariyaL22261.18
1997-98Teemu SelšnneR73670.92
1997-98Jaromir JagrR77640.83
1997-98John LeclairL82600.73
1997-98Eric LindrosC63460.73
1997-98Peter ForsbergC72510.71
1997-98Wayne GretzkyC82580.71
1997-98Pavel BureR82560.68
1997-98Ron FrancisC81550.68
1997-98Sergei FedorovF21130.62
1997-98Joe SakicC64340.53
1997-98Steve YzermanC75390.52
1997-98Valeri KamenskyL75390.52
1997-98Slava KozlovL80350.44
1997-98Claude LemieuxR78340.44
1997-98Brendan ShanahanL75320.43
1997-98Igor LarionovC69300.43
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1998-99Jaromir JagrR81821.01
1998-99Eric LindrosC71650.92
1998-99John LeclairL76650.86
1998-99Mats SundinC82670.82
1998-99Joe SakicC73560.77
1998-99Teemu SelanneR75530.71
1998-99Peter ForsbergC78540.69
1998-99Paul KariyaL82550.67
1998-99Steve YzermanC80470.59
1998-99Sergei FedorovC77420.55
1998-99Brendan ShanahanL81400.49
1998-99Igor LarionovC75370.49
1998-99Valeri KamenskyL65320.49
1998-99Wayne GretzkyC70320.46
1998-99Milan HejdukR82370.45
1998-99Slava KozlovL79350.44
1998-99Claude LemieuxR82250.30
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
1999-00Jaromir JagrR63671.06
1999-00Pavel BureR74720.97
1999-00Joe SakicC60580.97
1999-00Peter ForsbergC49360.73
1999-00Jeremy RoenickC75550.73
1999-00Tony AmonteR82590.72
1999-00Paul KariyaL74520.70
1999-00Mats SundinC73510.70
1999-00Teemu SelanneR79540.68
1999-00John LeclairL82530.65
1999-00Steve YzermanC78460.59
1999-00Brendan ShanahanL78460.59
1999-00Sergei FedorovC68380.56
1999-00Alex TanguayL76410.54
1999-00Milan HejdukR82440.54
1999-00Chris DruryF82440.54
1999-00Pat VerbeekR68350.51
1999-00Igor LarionovC79320.41
1999-00Slava KozlovL72280.39
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2000-01Mario LemieuxC43431.00
2000-01Jaromir JagrR81780.96
2000-01Joe SakicC82660.80
2000-01Patrik EliasL82640.78
2000-01Teemu Selanne (SJ)R1290.75
2000-01Pavel BureR82590.72
2000-01Alex TanguayL82580.71
2000-01Peter ForsbergC73470.64
2000-01Milan HejdukR80490.61
2000-01Steve YzermanC54310.57
2000-01Teemu Selanne (TOT)R73410.56
2000-01Teemu Selanne (ANA)R61320.52
2000-01Chris DruryF71350.49
2000-01Brendan ShanahanL81390.48
2000-01Paul KariyaL66300.45
2000-01Martin LapointeR82330.40
2000-01Slava KozlovL72290.40
2000-01Sergei FedorovC75290.39
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2001-02Alexei KovalevF67530.79
2001-02Jaromir JagrR69540.78
2001-02Jarome IginlaR82640.78
2001-02Todd BertuzziR72550.76
2001-02Markus NaslundL81590.73
2001-02Mario LemieuxC24170.71
2001-02Glen Murray (BOS)R73510.70
2001-02Joe ThorntonC66460.70
2001-02Joe SakicC82530.65
2001-02Sergei FedorovC81450.56
2001-02Brendan ShanahanL80440.55
2001-02Brett HullR82400.49
2001-02Steve YzermanC52240.46
2001-02Teemu SelanneR82320.39
2001-02Luc RobitailleL81290.36
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2002-03Peter ForsbergF75730.97
2002-03Joe ThorntonC77650.84
2002-03Milan HejdukR82630.77
2002-03Glen MurrayR82630.77
2002-03Joe SakicC58390.67
2002-03Todd BertuzziR82550.67
2002-03Sergei FedorovC80520.65
2002-03Alex TanguayL82520.63
2002-03Markus NaslundL82500.61
2002-03Jaromir JagrR75450.60
2002-03Jarome IginlaR75440.59
2002-03Brett HullR82480.59
2002-03Pavel DatsyukC64370.58
2002-03Brendan ShanahanL78400.51
2002-03Teemu SelanneR82400.49
2002-03Henrik ZetterbergL79330.42
2002-03Steve YzermanF1650.31
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2003-04Peter ForsbergC39300.77
2003-04Alex TanguayL69530.77
2003-04Markus NaslundL78580.74
2003-04Joe ThorntonC77570.74
2003-04Patrik EliasL82570.70
2003-04Scott GomezC80540.68
2003-04Todd BertuzziR69440.64
2003-04Jaromir JagrR77480.62
2003-04Joe SakicC81490.60
2003-04Pavel DatsyukC75440.59
2003-04Glen MurrayR81460.57
2003-04Brett HullR81450.56
2003-04Milan HejdukC82460.56
2003-04Sergei FedorovC80370.46
2003-04Paul KariyaL51200.39
2003-04Steve KonowalchukF76300.39
2003-04Teemu SelanneR78220.28
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2005-06Joe ThorntonC81720.89
2005-06Jaromir JagrR82710.87
2005-06Michael NylanderC81620.77
2005-06Jason SpezzaC68490.72
2005-06Alex TanguayL71490.69
2005-06Joe SakicC82530.65
2005-06Brendan ShanahanF82530.65
2005-06Pavel DatsyukC75480.64
2005-06Henrik ZetterbergL77490.64
2005-06Teemu SelanneR80500.63
2005-06Sergei Fedorov (ANA)C500.00
2005-06Sergei Fedorov (CBJ)C62250.40
2005-06Sergei Fedorov (TOT)C67250.37
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2006-07Daniel BriereC81650.80
2006-07Jason SpezzaC67520.78
2006-07Vincent LecavalierC82630.77
2006-07Sidney CrosbyC79590.75
2006-07Joe ThorntonC82600.73
2006-07Pavel DatsyukC79550.70
2006-07Joe SakicC82570.70
2006-07Jaromir JagrR82550.67
2006-07Alexander OvechkinL82550.67
2006-07Henrik ZetterbergL63410.65
2006-07Evgeni MalkinC78450.58
2006-07Teemu SelanneR82460.56
2006-07Sergei FedorovC73200.27
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2007-08Alex OvechkinL82750.91
2007-08Sidney CrosbyC53440.83
2007-08Evgeni MalkinC82660.80
2007-08Dany HeatleyL71570.80
2007-08Jarome IginlaR82650.79
2007-08Daniel AlfredssonR70550.79
2007-08Jason SpezzaC76590.78
2007-08Marian GaborikL77580.75
2007-08Henrik ZetterbergF75550.73
2007-08Vincent LecavalierC81590.73
2007-08Joe ThorntonC82590.72
2007-08J.P. DumontF80560.70
2007-08Ilya KovalchukL79550.70
2007-08Pavel DatsyukC82560.68
2007-08Teemu SelanneR26110.42
2007-08Sergei Fedorov (CBJ)C50180.36
2007-08Sergei Fedorov (TOT)C68240.35
2007-08Sergei Fedorov (WSH)C1860.33
YearPlayerPosGPESPESPPG
2008-09Evgeni MalkinC82700.85
2008-09Alex OvechkinL79630.80
2008-09Sidney CrosbyC77620.81
2008-09Martin HavlatR81630.78
2008-09Zach PariseL82610.74
2008-09Pavel DatsyukC81590.73
2008-09Daniel SedinL82580.71
2008-09Jarome IginlaR82570.70
2008-09Henrik SedinC82560.68
2008-09Marian HossaR74470.64
2008-09Henrik ZetterbergC77410.53
2008-09Teemu SelanneR65260.40
2008-09Sergei FedorovC52200.38

Finally, nhl.com doesn't have don't have the numbers posted before 1997-98, but it's interesting to note that Selanne/Kariya were playing 17-18 minutes of even strength and 5+ on the PP, while Fedorov played around 13-14 at ES and 3-4 on the PP, as well as 2-3 on the PK. He also played a more significant amount before his 1997 holdout than after, and he played more before the 1996 acquisition of Larionov for Sheppard than after. It's not unlike the Carson situation in the early 90s in that it resulted in depth at center, but reduced individual numbers for all. Except the third center in this instance wasn't defensively inept, and he wasn't the team's third-best forward.

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