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03-15-2013, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw View Post
Well, of the top 10 D in scoring right I count 5 first rounders:


And of course Karlsson would certainly be there if he was playing.

You could say that drafting anyone is a crapshoot, but some are lower risk than others. Barring a real head case, talent will generally show itself sooner or later. When was the last time a defenseman was a consensus #1 like Jones is now? Erik Johnson was last d-man taken #1 overall, in 2006. Before that you go back another 10 years to 1996 (Chris Phillips).

And of the the d-men who have been taken with high picks (but not #1) recent years, are they doing so badly? OEL, Hedman, Pietrangalo, Doughty, heck even Luke Schenn?
Whoops completely missed Shattenkirk so 5 out of top 12 (OEL tied at ten with 2 other guys), 9 out of the top 30. Add Karlson and its 6 out of 13 and 10 out of 30. Karlson actually proves might point about hype and defensemen. 6 more hyped defensemen were chosen ahead of him and he might be the best of that group. The year before Karl Alzner was considered the best defensemen, yet P.K. Subban was taken in the 2nd. 2005 Jack Johnson at 3rd overall or Kris Letang in the 3rd rd. 2004 Cam Barker 3rd overall vs Alexander Elder in the 3rd. Please find me a draft since the lockout where the best forward was drafted after the 1st round or even the top 5 picks.

I am not saying that if Jones is available when the Flyers come up, don't pick him. I am saying he is not worth adding resources to move up and pick him with what will be available if the Flyers stayed put. Let me rephrase my argument. If the Flyers had the 2nd pick in 2008, would it have made sense to trade up by adding another 1st or a player to draft Doughty or just stay put and draft Stamkos. Would you have added Couturier to get Hedman instead of just picking Tavares or even Duchene? I know the Flyers need a defensemen, but I think it would be better to save those resources to get someone more established or draft dmen in bulk.

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