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03-16-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JackSlater View Post
Not really. Both are mediocre in that area, but I would give Getzlaf a minor edge. On international ice where speed/agility are required to a greater degree, Stamkos has obviou advantages.

What does the length of the Olympics have to do with anything? I'm saying that Getzlaf has been great so far this year, but it's only 26 games. Every year in the NHL there are players who get off to a great start and then lose steam. If Getzlaf cooled off to a 1 PPG pace then I doubt he is penciled in as a lock. My criticism of Getzlaf has more to do with his style of play than his last season, which was clearly abnormally poor for him.

I hate this mentality. Every line should be capable both offensively and defensively. Every line on Canada should be expected to score due to the talent available, and they should all be expected to be effective defensively.

Well, Stamkos likely comes as a package with St. Louis, and I would take St. Louis defensively over any of Getzlaf, Perry or Stamkos. Factoring in the larger ice surface and that edge grows. I would consider E. Staal strongly for either line, so that is moot. If Canada was caught behind the goal line or deep in a corner, I would much rather have Stamkos or St. Louis skating to make up space than Getzlaf or Perry.

I agree that Getzlaf is one of the 13 best forwards right now, and he pretty much has to play second line centre (which is a limiting factor). Picking the team shouldn't be about simply selecting the 13 best forwards though. The right players are needed for the right roles, and Getzlaf can only play one role, while there are others who can play that role and others at least at a comparable level.

I have no hate for Getzlaf, as I said before I like him. If you remember the WC last year, we saw many defencemen who could handle Getzlaf in the offensive zone, and that was with Perry and Benn/Kane. As far as speed goes, I don't even mean straight ahead speed as much as the ability to recover. If Getzlaf gets caught in the corner against Russia or Sweden, I have a hard time believing that he has the ability to get back to help stop a rush or even get back into good position should the play happen in the defensive zone.

Getzlaf being fine as a skater is partially the point. Look at the other players most likely to represent Canada, and they are basically all exceptional skaters. Getzlaf is not, and while that is not an issue that precludes him from the team, it has to be considered. At the WC Getzlaf had some points, but I expected far more given who played on his line. His level of play was lower than the stats would indicate, in my opinion. Once again it's not an issue that should preclude him from the team, just one more thing to consider.

I share your opinion, mainly the bold ones. You're right that it's not about best 13 players in terms of scoring, but it's about to make the best TEAM. To make it clear, Getzlaf is not a lock for me, so he can be replaced by someone different, and I have no problem with that.
Let's see in next weeks and months.

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