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03-18-2013, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The Fading Captain View Post
Where is your evidence that Ericsson is more than what I said he is?
Jumping in here because I find this curious. You said Ericsson is a 3rd-pairing guy? LOL.

Is it that he's +1? 5th among red wings defensmen?
Is it his 10 points? 2nd among RW defensemen, but hardly a lot given his icetime with Z and Datsyuk.

Is it the 10 minor penalties?
Is it 19 shots on goal (6th on the team D)

Is it the 24 blocked shots? 20 less than Kronwall and 4th on the team?
Here's one for ya....

Ericsson's stats on an 82-game pace, in his first year on the top pair, with 3 years experience:

32 points
60 shots
120 hits
76 blocked shots
32 minor penalties

Now here's the last guy to have filled the same role Ericsson, on a better Wings team, with a better defense partner, over 4 years, initially with 8 years experience, averaged over 82 games:

21 points
122 shots
185 hits
127 blocked shots
14 minor penalties

That's a guy whom you treasured and was agreed by all to be a top-pairing defenseman. Now, Stuarts stats are better (though you really shouldn't be harping on Ericsson's points or +/-, given that he's playing with Kronwall on a crappier team than Stuart did, with Lidstrom mind you, and is putting up the same or better numbers). But if that's the margin between a #2 guy and a #6 guy, then there are a plethora of NHL defenseman playing on the wrong pairing across the league.

Ideally, Ericsson isn't on the top pair. But he's clearly a good 2nd pairing defensive defenseman.

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