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03-18-2013, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
You bring up some solid points, but I cant put anything near all of the fault on Tortorella for whats happened to Kreider.

He played afraid up here - period. Whether is was afraid of making a mistake, afraid of taking another huge hit, whatever the case may be - he played scared.

If Kreider came out of the shoot and really made a difference on the forecheck/in the offensive zone, Im pretty sure he wouldve gotten a bit more leeway regarding the incomplete parts of his game.

To put this all in Torts and not give some of the blame to Kreider is pure scapegoating.

Miller, for all his inexperience and mistakes, still goes out there with a purpose and isnt afraid to try to make a difference. I, for one, am happy to coach is rewarding a player like that and didnt reward Kreider for his incredibly timid play.
I agree Kreider did played scared. I think it was a combination of those things. I don't and won't put all the blame on Torts. But at the same time you have to remember he is 21 years old. All the goals he scored in the playoffs mean nothing. He needed to be given more leeway. I think at times he was playing at the very least average but yet his ice time would be reduced more and more as the game went on even though he wasn't making glaring mistakes. I mean you had the kid playing with Mashinter out there, you're not really setting him up for success.

I like Miller a lot. I was only agreeing with Brooks in how Torts handles Miller compared to Kreider. I do agree Miller goes out every shift and skates hard, takes the body as best as he can, and plays center and defense very well. But he has made some bad plays, specifically he'll hold onto the puck too long sometimes where he gets closed off on the boards, or makes a weak pass that isn't on the tape or doesn;t have enough on it....ends up being a turnover going the other way. But in the end kreider and miller are different players. You cannot expect Kreider, a more offensive player to be defensive, and miller, a more defensive player to be offensive. You need to let Kreider play and make mistakes. And at this point, being outscored 9-2 the last three games, could it really hurt?

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