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03-19-2013, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OrrNumber4 View Post
There are very few defensemen that fit that definition, because the vast majority of defensemen that could get those kinds of numbers are playing in the NHL. As I said, for him to be playing at a 41 point pace in the NHL, I'd expect 55-60 points at the AHL level.

We are saying, that a player who was about at a ~.5ppg pace in the AHL is really able to maintain that pace at the NHL level? I am dubious...
I see your train of thought. But you are discounting development altogether.

It may be hyperbole, but the nhl D men in your category most likely skipped the AHL.

Also, your forward group matters. A top 3 d man is getting most of his points from assists, quite a few secondary, and that doesn't always translate to the AHL. It's not as cut and dry as a 60 PT AHL player will do 40+ in the nhl.

Do I think Irwin tops put as a number 1/2. Probably not, unless he fixes his skating and positioning. But it's nothing to do with his AHL production.

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