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03-21-2013, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Phil View Post
He is not in because of a lack of an NHL career. However, he was 31 when he was allowed to play in the NHL. But that being said both Kharlamov and Tretiak are in the HHOF despite never playing a game in the NHL. I realize that a lot of that has to do with impact and 1972 and such, but you could argue that Makarov was the best Russian to ever lace up a pair of skates. Fetisov and Larionov won Cups with Detroit in the NHL and that helps their cause but in all honesty neither was a great NHLer. Fetisov wasn't even close to winning a Norris and Larionov was a shadow of his former self once he hit the NHL. I don't see why they are in and Makarov isn't. It isn't as if Larionov was a star in the NHL.
Larionov received votes for the Hart and the center all-star position in 1993-94, and he received Selke votes that year and in other years.
Originally Posted by Ohashi_Jouzu View Post
He has been enshrined in the IIHF HoF for over a decade, which is appropriate and a "no-brainer". As great as he was, though, you have to do more in the NHL to get into its HoF. Bure, for all his talent AND obscene number of goals, is still waiting for example, and we're forced to acknowledge that championships (or lack thereof) weigh heavily for those who don't have standout seasons and/or statistical accumulation.

Talent was absolutely deserving, NHL resume isn't, imo.
Bure got in last year. The thing is, it's not the "NHL Hall of Fame" despite the way it's treated by many. It's the Hockey Hall of Fame. And it has recognized those who never even had the opportunity to play in the NHL, such as Kharlamov, Tretiak, and Granato. Larionov and Fetisov are in mainly for their Soviet careers; their NHL careers do not stand alone and make it to the Hall. Makarov was the best Russian forward of his era, and arguably ever. So it stands to reason that if his old linemate Larionov is in, and he is/was generally considered superior to Larionov, he should get in as well.

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