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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee View Post
Hal Gill was the first one I can remember who had actual external pads on his skates. Before that, I remember Bauer selling some type of goop in a can. The stuff looked like tar and smelled even worse, but the idea was to basically add this to the outside of the skate. It would harden, and thus dampen the impact of a puck hitting the foot.

There was a time when taking a shot off the foot meant that it was broken, and that taking a shot off the shin (unless you were Craig Ludwig, who'd park his truck on top of his shin guards) would at least sideline you for a couple of games. With a couple of notable exceptions (like Wisniewski), most guys are coming up with a limp and nothing more.



I disagree, mostly because the prevalence of shot blocking in the NHL is so much higher than in the NFL.

I'll give one team. Colorado has played 29 games so far this season, and they have allowed 939 shots on goal. They also have blocked 511 shot attempts, and another 295 missed the target completely without being blocked. That means that out of 1,745 attempted shots:
- 939 reached either the goalie or the back of the net (53.8%)
- 511 were blocked by a defender before reaching goal (29.3%)
- 295 missed completely (16.9%)

These aren't shockingly skewed numbers either. The average number of blocked shots per game has been in the 27-29 range for a couple of years now.

Now, in the NFL, here's what we have. In 2012, Houston led the league in passes defended. This includes passes tipped at the line or downfield by someone either swatting the ball away or attempting to intercept a pass (and failing). They had 124 PDs (which led the league) and 15 interceptions. There were 581 actual pass attempts against the Texans. Of course, passing is only part of the game; Houston had another 390 rushing attempts against.

So out of a total of 971 offensive plays against, 12.77% involved a pass being knocked down...or maybe it was an attempted interception that didn't go. Also keep in mind that Houston's defense this year was a major story because of their front 7 (particularly JJ Watt) seeming to get their hands on a huge percentage of passes. But no one talks about Colorado's shot blocking in the NHL, because everyone has these huge numbers of blocked shots. We may talk about the Rangers, but they're 6th in the league right now and didn't lead the league last year either.

We're talking about 25% of the attempted shots in the league.
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Well, are you saying that shot blocking in the NHL has no comparison? Pete was saying it compares more to defensive linemen batting down passes at the line than it does to secondary players defensing passes at the point of reception. I'm inclined to agree with him. Corners defensing passes seems more analogous to goaltenders stopping shots. Anyway, it seems like you're analysis doesn't correspond to his point.

Also, it seems like if you want to compare pass attempts in football to shots on goal in hockey statistically, shouldn't you NOT include rushing attempts in the overall tally? Your percentages wind up different if you include plays that have no NHL comparison (rushing attempts). Your 12.77% represents total offensive plays against, which means passes defensed suffers on rushing plays. What would the number be on just passing plays?

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