We Need a Goalie
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03-23-2013, 02:36 PM
Where's the Hart?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I don't mean to offend anyone by this, but to the people who are adamant that we need a new goalie, do you guys actually have any experience with goaltending or any significant knowledge about the position? As in more than you would know from simply being a fan and watching all the games?
I've played the position all my life, and no, I don't think that makes me an expert who's 100% capable of analyzing and predicting an NHL goalies success, but what I can tell you is
Dubey is remarkably strong technically (positionaly, good movement for his size, plays the right angles, etc).
He also isn't nearly as bad in high pressure situations as people have mentioned, these late blown leads have more to to with who's on the ice at the time (petrell, brown, whichever other grinder wreck it Ralph goes with) or Petry putting it in his own net. This team has been known for blowing late leads over the last couple seasons regardless of who's in the net at the time.
I'm not going to say he's perfect, he doesn't play the puck (though half the goalies in the league won't even try it either), and yes I've seen the softies too but guess what? No matter how painful that one bad goal is to watch, it's how many goals he lets in that matters, not how they go in. Even during the first 10-15 games when Dubey was standing on his head for us and single handedly winning us games you guys still couldn't get over those occasional goals, but you need to look at the bigger picture and realize how well he's been playing outside of those moments.
As for the save % debate, yes that really is a
important stat for a goaltender. In fact it's probably the best statistical measure to evaluate them by (sv % is less effected by the team around you than the goals against average or win total). And what Dubey's save percentage tells us is that
he can maintain a higher than normal percentage of saves while facing considerably more rubber than the average NHL goaltender
, even with the occasional softy thrown in there. If it wasn't for those bad ones his stats would be through the roof and you guys would probably be talking vezina, not replacement.
That means that as the team develops defensively and learns to play a tighter more responsible system in their own end the shots against will decrease, which leads to other stats like goals against average and win totals improving big time. Just think how much more energy and focus the guy will have when he doesn't have to face 35+ shots every night, just speculation but that might even help out with the soft goals a little (I always found that when I let in a bad one it was usually during a time of fatigue in a game).
In conclusion, I'd like to hear from someone with some actual goaltending knowledge and experience that thinks Dubnyk is our problem.
Kind of an ignorant post, lots of guys on this board have played hockey at some level and I think shooters can judge a goalies ability as well as a goalie could. Maybe shoot an email to one of the ON guys and see if they can get an interview with Chabot. Regarding the rest all I'm going to say to this is I sure hope he's good at the bolded, he's an NHL goalie.
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