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08-08-2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by your_rogers_bill View Post
I'm curious, what do you guys think about these 2 drafts and what the Habs did with their 1st picks.

2003: F Andrei Kostitsyn (10th overall)
- F Jeff Carter (11th) - 42 pts in 81 games
- F Dustin Brown (13th) - 33 pts in 110 games
- D Brent Seabrook (14th) - 32 pts in 69 games
- F Robert Nilsson (15th) - 20 pts in 53 games
- F Steve Bernier (16th) - 27 pts in 39 games
- F Zach Parise (17th) - 32 pts in 81 games
- F Ryan Getzlaf (18th) - 39 pts in 57 games

2004: F Kyle Chipchura (18th overall)
- F Wojtek Wolski (21st overall) - 6 pts in 9 games, 2006 OHL MVP
- D Andrej Meszaros (23rd overall) - 39 pts in 82 games
- F Rob Schremp (25th overall) - top scorer in OHL (145 pts/57 gp)
- D Mike Green (29th overall) - 3 pts in 22 games, AHL all-star as rookie

Clearly, so far it hasn't worked out too well for Timmins, can someone explain why the "our scouts liked him, so it's a great pick" sentiment is so popular for Hab fans?
What hasn't worked out? Kostitsyn was likely one of the Habs top players in the AHL despite being among the youngest (Lapierre is 1 month younger) He was 2nd on the team in scoring and often ran the point on the PP. He's made good strides in each of the two years he's been in North America, but still has a good bit of work to do.

Chipchura had a freak accident that cost him almost a year of development. He had a very solid year with Prince Albert, had to be their MVP and he was also good with Team Canada and got high praise from Coach Sutter for his play. I thought he looked great in his short stint in Hamilton.

What other players do means nothing. The Canadiens always bring their prospects along slowly. The last 19 year old to see anything more then 3 or 4 games was Ribeiro and that was almost a disaster. Imo you don't evaluate your own prospects by the development of others. For those that don't understand development, kids at 18-20's will grow and mature at different levels/stages. Some faster then others. Then there's the system they play and how they are groomed. Other teams don't seem to have a problem putting their young players in the lineup right away, but that has nothing to do with the Habs. It's not about who was picked over who and why wasn't this guy picked instead. You can't change the past, you make your picks, take your chances and from there focus on their development.

It's pointless and silly to even compare others in different systems/situations. Yes fans can go on and on about how it sucks that other prospects are doing so much better. But it has nothing to do with the real world. In the real world you do your best to pick the players that you think will fit your system the best, guys you think will help your organization. Once you make those picks, it's done and if you didn't get the best guy which is often going to be the case if you look at it from a statistical standpoint, you still do what you can for each player to maximize their development and progression. There are many forms of success from draft picks and not all of them mean scoring 30+ goals in the NHL. Just as there are great chances most of your picks will never make it and turn out to be busts. Life goes on.

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