Thread: Doug Weight #39
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03-26-2013, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hockey Buddha View Post
What I meant was that some of those players (RNH, Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, and Schultz) are quite likely going to be better NHL players than Doug Weight. Personally, I think Weight should have retired five years before he did; he was injured a lot in that time span.

So to clarify, no, I do not think that all those players are going to play 19 years in the league (some of them could I suppose), but I do think that a number of them will be superior players to Doug Weight.

I think that Gagner is probably the best comparison to Doug Weight on the team, but I don't think in the long run that Gagner is going to be as good as Hall, RNH, Eberle, or Yakupov. They are a more elite class of player imo. The jury is out more on Paajarvi as to where he will finally plateau; he seems to have turned the corner a little. And, comparing points between Schultz and Weight doesn't even make a whole lot of sense, as they play quite different positions.
"Superior" is a somewhat vague choice of words. Do you mean that they'll put up more points in their primes than Weight, or do you mean they'll have more career points? Aside from Eberle, all of them started playing immediately after they were drafted, so I would expect Gagner, Hall, RNH, and Yakupov to have similar or better career numbers.

I think Weight was somewhat underrated in his prime due to the glut of talent at the time. Adjusted to the average league scoring rates from 2007-08 to 2011-12 (5.49 goals per game, 1.72 assists per goal), Weight would have put up:

95-96: 82GP, 22G, 71A, 93P (1.13 P/GP)
96-97: 80GP, 20G, 60A, 80P (1.00 P/GP)
97-98: 79GP, 27G, 48A, 75P (0.95 P/GP)
98-99: 43GP, 6G, 33A, 39P (0.91 P/GP)
99-00: 77GP, 21G, 52A, 73P (0.95 P/GP)
00-01: 82GP, 25G, 66A, 91P (1.11 P/GP)

TOT: 443GP, 121G, 330A, 451P (1.02 P/GP)

Playing in his actual era, Weight was 14th in total scoring (tied for 15th in points per game at 1.03) over those six years.

Weight's adjusted 1.02 points per game would be 10th best in the league over the the previous 5 years.

Weight in his prime playing in the current era would still never win any awards (well, possibly the King Clancy ), but there's really not many "tiers" above him.

That being said, I think that it is definitely possible for the kids in their respective primes to outperform Weight in his prime (most likely of them being Hall)... but it wouldn't be fair to Weight to think less about what he managed to accomplish with minimal support even if our kids become better. Weight is a thousand-point scorer from the dead-puck era, after all.

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