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03-29-2013, 01:50 PM
Kriss E
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Originally Posted by 24get View Post
Orr was dominating the game more than anything you can imagine.

At 21 years old he had 120 points (33G - 87A), 21 points ahead of forward teamate Phil Esposito who was second in the league.
Edit: actually, he is born in March so he reached his 120 points at 22.
Carol Vadnais was second in D-men that year with 44 points.

He did not play long but his level of domination was at par (or better) than Gretzky or Lemieux.
He is certainly the best d-man of all times and maybe the best player of all times.

To attain the same level, Subban would have need to get 125 points (ahead of Sedin) in 2010-2011.

No d-men since can have his name in the same sentence.

Much more difference between Karlsson and Orr than there is between Subban and Karlsson.
Karlsson is no Bobby Orr, Lindstrom is no Bobby Orr and Coffey is no Bobby Orr.
Bobby Orr scored 120 in 1970. That's 43 years ago. You cannot compare eras, it's dumb.

Bobby Orr would not score 120pts if he was 22 playing today in a full NHL season. Would not happen. Watch a game from the 70s, then watch one today, it's two different leagues. Players today are in much better conditioning, much faster, stronger, equipment is completely different, opposition is a lot stronger.

Who would be better Orr vs PK had they played at the same time? Who freaking knows. Everything is different. Orr scored 135pts in his last season with the Bruins, when's the last time we saw a player score 135pts in the NHL? Does this mean Orr would be the best player today? No it doesn't.

You can't compare eras. Everything was different.

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