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03-29-2013, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KingForsberg View Post
Selanne had plenty of success without Kariya. Again my argument is that you're giving Selanne no credit for making Kariya a better player. When did Selanne ever have good enough teamates to make deep postseason runs and put up point totals like Fedorov in the playoffs?



How bout when you tried to convince us Fedorovs 2000 season should be viewed a lot better than it actually was. You've tried giving Fedorov more points in imaginary situations. You told me not to rank Fedorov on his skillset and what he should have done. Rank Fedorov on what actually happened not what you think would have happened.



Zhamnov outscored Fedorov by a lot in 95. He was on Fedorovs level in terms of points in 98, 99,2000, and 2002. Guess Zhamnov is closer to Fedorov offensively than you remember.

Not mention Selanne was hurt a majority of the time in San Jose and especially Colarado. Fedorov played with a massive amount of talant in 2002 and only scored 68 points. When Selanne returned to the Ducks he didnt have the massive talent you think. He had Niedermayer in 2006. Andy McDonald was his center. Not exactly a superstar. Even when they got Pronger it's not like Selanne only played with Niedermayer and Pronger. The latter two hardly played on the same pair. Corey Perry and Getzlaf weren't the plauers they are today at that point. They were 20-21 yr olds.

Selanne produced better offensive seasons than Fedorov did. You can argue he played with better players but at least he showed he could produce that much offense. You keep relying on the fictitious motion that if Fedorov played with more talent he would score more. But outside of a three year stretch he didnt. Even in Fedorovs second best season, 1996, he still couldn't outscore Selanne.



How does Fedorov beat Selanne on offense in 96? Selanne had more points and more goals. Their PPG are the same as well. Again this was Selanne's fifth best season compare to Fedorovs 2nd best.


Again it's not like Brown was the only player Fedorov played with. And why wasn't Fedorov getting the offensive line mates if he was so good offensively? Certainly Fedorov was better than an aging Yzerman.



Selanne has more elite seasons than Fedorov. Amd the Longevity is a big thing. Fedorovs longevity is not too impressive while Selanne's is amongst the best all time.


An interesting fact about Fedorov's longevity:

Gold medal at Hockey Worlds in 1989

Gold medal at Hockey Worlds in 2008


Not impressive?

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