Thread: Proposal: Tor/edm
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03-30-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BayStreetBullies View Post
Gagner is having a decent year in a shortened season, and all of a sudden he's your best centre? Toronto gets fleeced in both deals.
This year Gagner > Hopkins. Hopkins still has some growing to do.

Take Gagner away and we've got the following at center:


Shortened season or not, we're still 30+ games into the season and Gagner is producing at a point per game. It's not because of a shortened season, it's because he's put tons of work into becoming a better hockey player every year in the off-season. He's pumped upto 195 pounds, he worked his butt off with a coach from Canada's olympic speed skating team to improve his skating 2 years ago, etc.

We've been patient with Gagner since Mac-T and K-Lowe threw him into the fire as an 18 year old and it's really paid off this year. He's got the strength, speed and smarts to never look out of place playing 2nd line minutes. Why trade him for a stranger in Grabo or even less in that crazy 2nd proposal?

As for Smid, he's leading the league in blocked shots, throws tons of hits and is very difficult to play against in general. Another player Oil fans have spent a long time watch develop. When he first came to Edmonton he didn't do anything well enough for us to think anything other than "damn you Pronger!!!!!" but year by year he's improved his game. Was amazing to see how quickly he picked up on the physical side of the game when he bought into it. A guy who loves playing for the Oilers. It makes no sense to trade guys like this.

Would you trade happy homegrown talent away for a package that makes your team equally or less competitive? Of course not. We've got less use for Gardiner than you might think. If we picked up a top 4 d-man, we'd want a shut-down guy so that we could push Nick Schultz down to the third pairing.

We're very happy with Petry-Smid for a first pairing. They've got wicked chemistry and they complement each other very well. This started in the middle of last season.

Gardiner is not going to steal minutes from Justin Schultz and Schultz/Gardiner wouldn't be a balanced pairing. Not saying that Schultz is the better guy now. He was promised top 4 minutes before he signed with Edmonton. He's worked his butt off on most nights and to take those minutes away from him would be going back on what was promised to him.

Next year we'll probably start the year with Nick Schultz playing with Justin, but once Klefbom gets used to North America Schultz and Klefbom will switch pairings and our d will be set.

We have absolutely no use for this proposal. It does nothing but mess up what progress we've made with the development of our roster over the past decade of hell. (Feels like a decade)

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