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Ryane Clowe to Rangers for NYR 2013 2nd, FLA 2013 3rd, Conditional 2nd 2014
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04-02-2013, 07:12 PM
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Fleming Island, Fl
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You just proved my point. Those teams have had to get RID OF GOOD PLAYERS in the last year cause of their depth ! We got rid of 7 assets for two players and have nowhere near the depth and talent those teams have. They SHOULD be making these kind of moves, we can barely develop one forward every 4 years.
Seven assets for two players? Are we talking Nash & Clowe? AA, Dubi, Erixon, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd?
Erixon, so far, = borderline NHL'er
Dubi/AA = 2nd/3rd line players
4 draft picks = unknown asset
Nash = elite top 10/15 player in the league
Clowe = top six forward
The immediate effect here, for a NYR team that "experts" thought were going to be a Stanley Cup competitor (top 4, I'll say) is that we've given up two 2nd/3rd line players and a 6/7th "D" for a top line player and 2nd line player. Those are the immediate effects of these two trades. This doesn't significantly weaken the current team, in fact, it does quite the opposite. Why is the chemistry not great? Why aren't they scoring? Don't know. But these two moves, in the immediate short term (1-3 years) absolutely IMPROVED this team from nearly any perspective you want to take.
How can you even argue that Nash/Clowe isn't > Dubi/AA/Erixon? It's not even close.
Lundqvist is in his early 30's. The year after next season we have very few players signed. The Rangers are obviously playing for this year and for next and feel this is their window.
Furthermore, the assets that we've lost can be recovered via trading Gaborik for picks or other trades of that nature.
Your crystal ball can't tell me what those four picks will evolve into - it could be four NHL players or it could be NO NHL players. I've already shown you plenty of 2nd and 3rd rounders that we've picked that barely sniffed the NHL - most played 1 game or less and more of them played no NHL games at all.
Short term, they were good deals. If we win the Cup or make the Finals, it was a good deal no matter what.
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