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Originally Posted by Finnpin View Post
Luck? It's Finland you are talking about, we are like Donald Ducks

One of the biggest reason of the Finnish success is good goaltender coaches and maybe the Finnish mentality suits well for a goalie.

Also guys like Bäckström, Rinne and Niemi were quite late bloomers/signings to NHL. Nobody outside Finland didn't knew much about these guys untill they went to NA. So that said... having a better prospects now doesn't necessarily mean one nation will be having better top front goalies in the future.
First of all, the Finland angle was just one I liked to make this thread. You want a measuring stick, you take the one Finland has made for us/the rest of the hockey world. Take it as a compliment.

Sweden didn't have goaltending prospects at all for some time. Just the odd natural talent. You need depth to get top end depth. Minus Lundqvist, all our middle-aged goalies are guys who blossomed late when they got a goalie coach to work with full time. Sweden was long behind with goalie coaches. And picking up things at 25 is a lot harder than at 15, something the current wave of prospects have had the luxury of. It's a guessing game, but you need a base to stand on and that base has slowly been built for 8-9 years now and is starting to pay off. Even for the odd older guy like Fasth.

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Those are just in the span of 4 years(88-91):
Lindbäck
Enroth
Markström
Lehner
Läck
Nilsson
Svedberg
Hellberg
Owuya
Eriksson
Pettersson-Wentzel

This is talent we could've spread over a 15 year period before. The 92-95 pool is similar in a depth. So realistically when you plant trees like that, you're bound to get some cherries.

Guys who I will be surprised if they don't make it:
Markström
Lehner

Good chance to get there:
Lindbäck
Läck
Hellberg
Nilsson

Moderate chance:
Enroth
Svedberg

Swedish starters in three years realistically, imo:
Lundqvist
Fasth
Lehner
Markström

So in three years we go from one starter and a bunch of 1a, 1b's to four starters and probably another couple of backups/1a,1b guys. That's pretty good.

Continuing with the Finland theme, in three years Kiprusoff is 40 and Bäckström is 38 and possibly stepping down from the throne. But let's say that Rämö is starter material and sticks. That leaves Finland with 5, Sweden with 4, with the depth probably on our side. Then there's another step from being a starter to being an all-star, of course. So it's not a fair matchup currently, but I like were we are heading.

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