ATD 2013 Lineup Assassination Thread - Jim Robson Division
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04-05-2013, 02:44 AM
I voted for Kodos
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Above average 1st PP. The forwards are solid. Bourque is in the category of best PP QBs of all-time not named Bobby Orr. Schneider is probably weak for a 1st unit PP guy, but not as weak as Bourque is strong. Neither guy is a RH shot, which does hurt their effectiveness a bit.
I wanted to touch on this because I forgot to address this comment earlier after this thread got sidetracked by the discussion of Montreal's 2nd pairing defensemen. I find it strange that you think Boyle is a good top unit PP guy and Schneider a weak one. When I was running the franchise with Reen MIA for a few weeks, I decided that a PP specialist as #6 defenseman would be the best way forward with the top-5 that he had assembled, and because I believed that keeping Thomson - Mortson together on the 2nd unit would be the best situation. So I researched who I thought was the best of what was out there, and with the exception of Sandis Ozolinsh, who went too early for me to pick him, and the undrafted Jeff Brown, who was an execrably poor defensive player, I was satisfied that Mathieu Schneider was the best man for the job. I think this for a couple of reasons:
1) He shows up very well in overpass'
of second tier post-expansion powerplay defensemen (I encourage everybody to read that excellent thread in its entirety). Basically, his PP production is identical to that of Dan Boyle, but his peak as a powerplay QB was about 150 games longer.
2) He has experience playing both sides, and being the 2nd best defenseman on a powerplay. Schneider played on the right a lot (both times in New York, at least, and I think for most of his career) when he was the best pointman on the powerplay because he had a big shot, but he also played mostly on the left in Detroit next to Lidstrom. You can go find his goal videos in NHL.com to confirm this, which is what I did to make sure before I made the pick. This makes him a perfect candidate to be a #6 PP specialist playing next to a better defenseman, on whichever side is needed.
Schneider would not be good as a #1 powerplay QB at this level, but as a #2 guy, with his long years of high-level production and experience playing on both sides, I think he's a good partner for Bourque. I would guess he's about average as a #2 PP defenseman at this level. Many great powerplay units, including Lidstrom - Schneider in Detroit, have featured two left-handed defensemen.
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