ATD 2013 Lineup Assassination Thread - Louis Magnus Division
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04-05-2013, 07:28 PM
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The first line is a weird mix of size outside and speed inside, and it suffers the same problem that my Barber-Lalonde-Lanny line will suffer; Max Bentley is arguably your best offensive player, but he'll be required to be his own playmaker, and he's not nearly the player Newsy Lalonde is. Shanahan can do some of the dirty work, but I've always considered him a front-of-the-net finisher type, and Heatley is almost purely a sniper. He was a decent playmaker in his era, but was never renown for it.
A big reason why Bentley does not have a great playmaker on his line is becouse he to a high degree IS the lines playmaker, although driver of the play might be a more accurate saying, i'm sure his wingers will catch up with him having the puck almost all the time. Shannys role IS to go to the net or give Bentley room to zig-zag with the puck, sometimes going past one-on-one, sometimes shoot or pass or drop it to Heatley so that he can snipe. I also believe that Heatley can return pucks from Bentley when they attack for Max to shoot with Shanny on the goalie.
Petrov is a strong 2C, and that line looks solid at a good, slow, grinding style of offense, but I don't know if Lemieux really belongs there. I would love that line with Heatley as your 2R and someone with more two-way skills as your 1R (not that there's really anything you can do about that now.
Yeah, but as it stands now Sedin and Petrov will control the puck between them with mainly the russian taking the shots, partly becouse he'll have the better angle more often, partly becouse he simply is a much better scorer than Sedin. At the same time Claude can either go to the net, or into the corner to chase a puck he can deliver to either of the others, or he can sometimes even try finding a space where he can get the odd pucks and shoot. He will certainly not be shooting as much as he's sometimes used to though, this is Claude Lemieux and we'll use him as the beast he is concerning intangibles.
Third line has arguably the two best defensive forwards to ever play the game, so it'll be good ... the only shortcoming is that they could maybe use some size.
Perhaps they're not that big, but Bob Gainey was'nt exactly small when he played, and what Bobby Schmautz may have lacked there in the seventies, which was'nt all that much concerning the era, i think he makes up for by being a crazy mofo.
The defense has lots of offensive ability, which is strange because your top 6 forwards are so middle-of-the-road. What made Fetisov so good was his skating and his ability on the puck; you can get away with a Paul Reinhart-quality defenseman in your first pairing with Fetisov, but it can't be Paul Reinhart ... a dumpy fire hydrant type (Craig Ludwig, Leo Boivin) would at least be able to do his thing while Fetisov played with the puck. By putting Reinhart and Fetisov together, you're taking the puck / taking "creative time" away from Fetisov to give it to Reinhart, and that strikes me as a very poor use of Fetisov.
I dont quite understand if you're actually saying that Fetisov and Reinhart are of the same breed of players? Fetisov is excellent both offensively and defensively. He's also though. I'm just relying on Reinharts ability to follow the flow of the game here concerning when who goes and who stays. I believe it's a good thing to have two offensively capable players in one pairing since it gives the option to start offensive plays from both sides, people dont know what to expect. But i do know this wont be a top first pairing defensively, i just think that it wont have to be especially bad either especially becouse of Fetisov.
I like both guys in the second pairing, but the rest of your defense is just OK.
OK thanks. I do have some faith though that Samuelsson and Patricktogether will be pretty good defensively, but obviously not very talented offensively even though i do think they at least are capable of playing the puck out of the zone without iceing it.
Glenn Hall is a monster and he will probably need to be behind that defense, and Dzurilla is a good backup.
Yeah, i love Glenn Halls ability to play very many games and that he has experience from having offensive minded teams in front of him, not the least since our first pairing is not as a duo the greatest defensively.
Confused about your special teams philosophy ... to put Fetisov on your 2PP suggests you're trying to build to balanced units, but you've got your 3 best penalty killers (Gainey, Carbonneau, Fetisov) paired on one unit. Might be well served to split them up somehow so that your 2nd PK unit wasn't so "meh."
Yes i will perhaps balance them more, but when it comes to the PP i have Patrick on the first becouse he is a rightie. I guess i never filled up the second PK the way i thought i would but at the same time i'm not too worried about it especially since guys like Gagne and Gustafsson pretty much be PK:ers and that's what they'll focus on. A few ordinary shifts as well is all.
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