The all encompassing "players of today vs players from the past" thread
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04-07-2013, 01:38 AM
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I'm not sure if this is the question you alluded to or not, but if so, you're dreaming. The increased player pool from these countries doesn't come close to covering the 30% increase in teams and even if it did, the point is mostly irrelevant. Swedes were already in the NHL.
What does it matter that most of the nhlers were Canadians? They were mostly the best players in the world at the time.
Last I checked, 9 teams equals 30% of the League.
Canadian's, Yanks, Swedes and Finn's make up 80% of the league or 24 teams.
Canadian's make up 16 teams on their own.
stolen from (RH71)
The numbers here show that the increase in the talent pool isn't nearly enough to support the increase in teams. The talent is actually thinner from roster to roster today than it was in the late 80's. There simply isn't enough to cover 9 additional teams. You keep making this claim, but it's simply not even close to being true. It's ok to have an opinion but it should be somewhat factual.
It's like saying MJ wouldn't dominate the NBA today because of the influx in talent from Argentina, Lithuania and other countries that lacked representation in the NBA.
Gretzky was competitive with a prime Jagr when the influx of euros was at its peak and he was an old diminished player at Gretzky's standards, playing with a career threatening injury to boot. Sorry, but the evidence that you provide has been working against you.
Why are you using 90 as the starting point?
When looking at the changes one can look at both league composition and the top 10 or 20 in scoring over a long timeline as well to see the impacts of these differences.
I did a pretty detailed look at the top 10 in scoring from 80-12 and in the mid 90's until now there has been close to a 50-50 split of Canadians and non Canadians in the top 10 in scoring.
The basic premise has been that expansion and increased talent streams have not gone hand in hand.
In 90 we ended a decade of 21 teams and the league was different in 80 than it was in 90, most of the growth was from the United States.
One can cherry pick certain points in the timeline against certain other points to obscure the overall trend all they want but the overall trend is pretty obvious.
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