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04-08-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 View Post
There's two so far.
A Canadian and a Yank I might add, which doesn't really help the whole Integrated League thing much

Although, I'm not sure I would include Rafalski as a Tier I, seems more of a Tier 2 to me and a single 9th place Norris finish doesn't exactly change my mind.
Rafalski's Norris finishes:
9, 11, 14 with NJ; 9, 9, 12 with DET.

Also, this included 1 first-place Norris vote, four second-place Norris votes, and four first-team votes.

Not bad for a guy with an eight-year career who didn't start his career until 26. I think it's pretty hard to dispute the idea of the guy as a top-ten defenseman among guys he played with and against. Really shows how that in the 2000-2010 period the top defensemen were really concentrated in places; Stevens/Rafalski/Niedermayer, Pronger/MacInnis, Redden/Chara, and Lidstrom/Chelios; then after the lockout Niedermayer/Pronger, Lidstrom/Rafalski, Weber/Suter, Blake/Boyle, even Bouwmeester/Phaneuf for half a season.

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