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04-09-2013, 03:33 PM
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Ok... here is what I've got for the criteria you laid out, Crease.

I got to these lists by breaking up the search criteria into 3 periods of time (pre-O6 - '26-'42; ~O6ish - '42-'67; and 'modern' - '67-'13), averaging the total possible GP per season over those periods of time, and then taking 75 percent of that as the exclusion criteria. Then tried to make sure I didn't miss anyone whose career straddled the time periods I chose. Players are included on these lists based on GP, so there may be a few stray players that should be taken off because they don't meet the criteria for # of seasons played (but I think I separated out most of them).

If the criteria is 4 seasons, 75 % gp, you get a list of 35 players. If you make the restriction 75 % gp of 5 seasons you get a list of 29 players.


4 Seasons, 75 % GP:

Clint Smith
Neil Colville *C/D
Phil Watson *C/RW
Butch Keeling *LW/C
Frank Boucher
Murray Murdoch *LW/C
Ab DeMarco

Phil Goyette
Jean Ratelle
Earl Ingarfield
Red Sullivan
Camille Henry
Larry Popein
Paul Ronty
Edgar Laprade
Don Raleigh
Phil Watson
Dave Creighton
Buddy O'Connor

Brandon Dubinsky
Brian Boyle
Artem Anisimov
Chris Drury
Blair Betts
Petr Nedved
Mark Messier
Sergei Nemchinov *C/LW
Darren Turcotte
Kelly Kisio
Mark Pavelich
Mike Rogers
Ron Duguay *C/RW
Phil Esposito
Pete Stemkowski
Walt Tkaczuk



5 Seasons, 75 % GP (red italics means players who were excluded based on the more stringent criteria):

Clint Smith
Neil Colville *C/D
Phil Watson *C/RW
Butch Keeling *LW/C
Frank Boucher
Murray Murdoch *LW/C
Ab DeMarco

Phil Goyette
Jean Ratelle
Earl Ingarfield
Red Sullivan
Camille Henry
Larry Popein
Paul Ronty
Edgar Laprade
Don Raleigh
Phil Watson
-Dave Creighton-
-Buddy O'Connor-

Brandon Dubinsky
-Brian Boyle-
-Artem Anisimov-
-Chris Drury-

Blair Betts
Petr Nedved
Mark Messier
Sergei Nemchinov *C/LW
-Darren Turcotte-
Kelly Kisio
Mark Pavelich
Mike Rogers
Ron Duguay *C/RW
Phil Esposito
Pete Stemkowski
Walt Tkaczuk



Overall, this seems like a good starting point (I'd probably prefer 4 seasons, 75 % since it gives more options; but would be fine with either in the end). Though I also could see an argument being made to loosen the criteria a bit for a few of the guys listed below:


Players missing the cutoff who there might be a justification to include (i.e. played at least 3 seasons with NYR but not reaching the % of games; or who played a high # of games, but didn’t quite reach 4-5 seasons):

Don Marshall (actually has the seasons and GP to be included by either metric - but didn’t exclusively play C)
Pierre Larouche (5 seasons, 253 of a possible 400 gp)
Orland Kurtenbach (5 seasons, 198 of a possible 366 gp)
Ulf Nilsson (4 seasons, 170 of a possible 320 gp)
Mark Janssens (4 and some change in seasons, but only 153 of a possible 320 gp)
Wayne Gretzky (3 seasons, 234 of a possible 246 gp)
Mike York (3 seasons, 230 of a possible 246 gp; also didn’t play C the entire time)
Wayne Dillon (3 seasons, 216 of a possible 240 gp)
Mikko Leinonen (3 seasons, 159 of a possible 240 gp)
Cal Gardner (3 seasons, 126 of a possible 170 gp)


Other notables not included:

Marcel Dionne (2 seasons and change, only 118 of a possible 174 gp)
Mike Ridley (1 season and change, 118 of possible 120 gp)
Walt Poddubny (2 seasons and didn’t play C exclusively)
Bernie Nichols (only 1 season and change)
Alexei Kovalev (only played C for part of a season or two(?) )
Eric Lindros (2.5 seasons)


Recent Centers not included:

Brad Richards
Derek Stepan
Bobby Holik
Scott Gomez
Vinny Prospal
Petr Prucha
Jamie Lundmark
Martin Straka
Sean Avery
Erik Christensen
Pat LaFontaine
Marc Savard
Manny Malhotra


*EDIT: Updated original list with notations on the players who played in other positions (If the C is listed first, that was their primary position; if it is listed second - in the case of Butch Keeling and Murray Murdoch - it was not).


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