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04-15-2013, 01:56 AM
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JohnHodgson
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Originally Posted by ottawa View Post
Actually it makes a world of a difference lol...the goalie and defensemen markets are completely different. More teams need top 4 Ds than they need goalies. And for the goalies value thing, the reason we don't see many trades involving starters is because they're just picked up during UFA or have been drafted by their current team...but when they are traded its usually for low.

Anaheim - Signed undrafted Hiller
Boston - Traded for Rask, paid high (Andrew Raycroft)
Buffalo - Drafted Miller
Calgary - Traded for Kipper, paid low (2nd round)
Carolina - Drafted Ward
Chicago - Drafted Crawford/signed UFA Emery
Colorado - Traded for Varlamov, paid high (1st round)
Columbus - Traded for Bobrovsky (vezina candidate), paid low (2nd round + 4th round)
Dallas - Traded for Lehtonen, paid low (Vishnevskiy + 4th round)
Edmonton - Drafted Dubnyk
Florida - Drafted Markstrom
Los Angeles - Drafted Quick
Minnesota - Drafted Backstrom
Montreal - Drafted Price
Nashville - Drafted Rinne
New Jersey - Drafted Brodeur
NYI - Signed Nabokov UFA/waivers
NYR - Drafted Lundqvist
Ottawa - Traded for Anderson, paid low (Brian Elliott)
Philadelphia - signed UFA Bryz
Phoenix - Signed UFA Mike Smith
Pittsburgh - Drafted Fleury, traded for Vokoun (7th round)
San Jose - Signed UFA Niemi
St Louis - Traded for Halak, paid low (Eller) and signed UFA Elliott
Tampa Bay - Traded for Bishop, paid low (Conacher)
Toronto - Drafted Reimer
Vancouver - Draftet Schneider, traded for Luongo and paid high (Bertuzzi)
Washington - Drafted Holtby
Winnipeg - Drafted Pavalec

So yeah...safe to say most starters (if not drafted) are either signed as UFAs or traded for cheap with the exception of Luongo, Varlamov and Rask. I'd say Schneider would get something in between Varlamov and the rest of the goalies.

Also, keep in mind that Luongo and Rask were dealt over 7 years ago, the market has changed since and most goalies are either signed as a UFA or simply traded for the usual 2nd or worse with the exception of Varlamov.
This whole goalie market is non-existent/small is completely false. People like to become sheep and follow what everyone says despite cold hard facts proving that the goalie market exists. Colorado gave up the 11th overall pick for Varlamov, a goalie who had 53 starts in a span of 3 years, had a .917 career percentage and also several injury concerns. Ben Bishop (career .912 save percentage) who had one good year (13 games played), got a leading calder candidate Cory Conacher. Lindback (a nobody before last year, played decent in a small amount of games in Nashville) got 2 2nd round picks, and a 3rd round pick. Schneider's value would be sky high, especially what he has been doing this year.

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