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04-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Epsilon View Post
I compared 3 of the 4 seasons where they were both in Anaheim, but I should have also included 99-00, where Kariya was 4th in scoring, Selanne 5th, and Kariya was 5th in goals. That doesn't exactly change much.
SeasonKariya PPGSelanne PPG
95-961.321.37 (1.29 with the Ducks though)
96-971.431.40
97-981.411.18
98-991.231.43
99-001.161.08
00-011.020.99

On a per game basis, Kariya outperformed Selanne most of the time they played together. He just missed time.

Obviously a pace can go either way with more games played, but he was trending more in the up direction until Suter crosschecked him in the face.

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Okay let's add that season for Kariya (one where he was neither in the top 5 in goals nor assists)
Yeah.. compare the leaderboard in 95-96 to the late 90s.

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and Selanne's 1992/93, which gives him another 1st place goal-scoring finish and 5th place. Seems that the gap is just widening. Not to mention Selanne's combined stats for 1995/96 have him with 108 points...the same number as Kariya.
92-93? What does that have to do with the Kariya and Selanne on the Ducks?

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And I'm arguing that a lot of the "widely considered better than him" aspect was based on media hype, especially from THN and TSN, because he was the next great young Canadian superstar at a time were there were relatively few of them.

And conversely, for all the media talked about how "Kariya is the straw that stirs the drink in Anaheim", when he went down in 1997/98 Selanne won the goal scoring title and was 2nd in points until he was shut down for the season with Anaheim eliminated from the playoffs and him playing through injury.

Simply put, there is really no substantive argument to put Kariya ahead of Selanne for the time period 1995-2000, much less claim Selanne was a half-step or even a full step below him. It's all based on flash, speculation, and more than a tinge of national bias.
Right. Because the "Finnish Flash" was a boring player in comparison.

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