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04-22-2013, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by villevalo View Post
Going by either a confirmed roster or last years roster:


Stefan Ulmer - Appears to be Swiss trained?
And the roster that got them into the top division in 2010 had two Canadian trained guys.

Czech Rep - Fair enough I'll give you that one, although the year they won it seems Marek Kvapil was Slovak trained.

Finland - Leo Komarov? Estonian born?

Latvian - In recent rosters guys like Arturs Kulda and Herberts Vasiljevs were picked.

Slovaks - Dominik Granak?

Slovenia - Greg Kuznik?

Sweden - Robert Nilsson?

The countries that don't have dual nats don't have any that are better then their home grown guys. I'm not arguing to have dual nats for the sake of it, if you have a pool of guys that qualify and the 22 or so players are all the best and all home grown then fantastic, but if the 22 best players in that pool aren't all home grown then whats the bloody problem. Especially as when the above shows that when they need to the top nations all use dual nat guys.

I mean for goodness sake, some of these teams in the WC wont even have all their best players as these 'patriots' will be playing in the playoffs. If we're arguing that dual nats shouldn't play because it's not fair on the home grown guys, what about the better nations and the Olympics. If the best guys turned the national team down for the WC's is it then not fair for the guys who played in the WC's to be replaced by the better guys? I didn't hear any outrage when Crosby scored.
Ulmer: No. He doesn't have any stats in Austria on Elite Prospects but if he had not played junior there in his earlier years he would not be eligible.

Komarov: Estonian born, Finnish trained

Kulda: One year in Latvian league in 03/04 and assuming he played there before then
Vasiljevs: Impossible to tell from stats but he must have played there otherwise wouldn't be eligible

Granak: One year of Slovak U20's listed, would have to have played earlier otherwise would be ineligible

Nilsson: Trained in Sweden didn't leave until 2006

The reason these countries don't have available dual nationals is because they haven't artificially increased the standard of their domestic league with imports. Therefore far less players have gone there to play and stayed long enough for citizenship.

You will find most of the eliminated European NHL players do choose to play in the WC's, Canadian and American players are more likely to turn them down but that's usually for reasons such as nagging injuries and having just played an 82 game season. Canadians and Americans in general do not really care about the WC's. I do not even see how that compares at all.

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