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04-25-2013, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKostitsyn View Post
But then you need an expensive backup, that will want more games. The first one who's contract is up is going to leave asking for more money. Its not a long term solution.
our goalie tandem is costing us 8 Mil a year, pretty sure if your starter were to make around 4 Mil, an upgrade on backup wouldnt cost you another 4 Mil

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The goaltender is like any star player. Say Subban begins to ''suck'', are we going to make the playoffs next year?
that's the thing, P.K. could have an off year and we could manage to make it still, now, let's say Price is injured or suck, any chance we make the P.O. ? awnser is NO. (I mean, Price is bad right now, do we look like a P.O. team?)

It's also not as any other star, simply because you can have more than one star on D or F while you cannot have two star goalie (well, technically you can but, 14 Mil on goalie ? you know)



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Of course, but I doubt Price is suddenly going to become an ECHL goaltender. Moot point imho, at ''worse'' he'll have a season like he had this year, which is still sufficient enough for us to finish 2nd or 4th in the East. Sure he's been quite bad lately but that could happen to anyone on a short lapse of time. You seem to assume the expensive goaltender is more likely to have a down year than the cheap one. The risks are the same, in fact the more expensive one having a down year is less likely since usually more proven and/or displaying sufficiently superior athletic&technical abilities that people consider them to be of elite stock.
doesnt matter actually, besides, I doubt Price would ever regress that much, but it's not important.

So, what you're saying is, at worst Price will be average and will still be good enough for us to finish top 4 in the East ? god damn! why are we spending so much on goaltending if an average goalie is sufficient enough for us to finish top 4 ? seriously ? why ?

(and it's not a knock on Price by the way, Q would still be relevant if our goalie was Lundqvist or Rinne)

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But then you need another 3mil to get a backup goalie to support them (which does not make it cheaper, in the end0. Or maybe the goalie you acquire turns out sucking, which is even worse.
every 4 Mil goalie who are doing just fine are backed up by (relatively) cheap goalies, none of those are making close to 3 Mil...


that we never know, we could have our D playing like AHLers, have tons of injuries, players no clicking, there's always a risk, no matter what.

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Its a false dichotomy. We don't have such a choice to make because we don't have Karlsson or equivalent players waiting to join us and we are not using all our cap space.

What would you prefer? Price and Gorges or Anderson (or equivalent) and Gorges? Ask the Sens board if they would refuse a Price for Anderson trade, straight up!
It was just an example, if the Org had his mind set in not needing a superstar calibre (potentially) goalie, chances are Price is not drafted by us #5, for all we know Habs end up picking up Quick (72th that year) as a goalie prospect, and a very good forward or d prospect with our #5.


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3mil in cap space is nothing. Its not even Kaberle. Its not even Bourque. Its not even Gionta. We can let go of a lot of dead weight before having to downgrade our goaltending if somehow we stock up on star players. There is no urgency to save 2-3mil in cap space whatsoever and we don't get better players automatically if we do it, we still need to acquire them and that is the hard part by far.
3 Mil is the difference in salary between Kaberle and JayBo
3 Mil is the difference in salary between Bourque and H. Sedin
3 Mil is the difference in salary between Gionta and Rick Nash

3 Mil is a LOT of money for a good GM.


That's a given, but having a GM who can deliver, no matter the philosophy used is a necessity anyway.


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