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Analyzing the Philadelphia Flyers' Young Defensemen
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04-30-2013, 08:16 PM
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Maybe I'm just not really that familiar with these advanced stats. I'm looking at the link posted above right there. Gus's Corsi On is -7.80 and Gervais's is -4.19. Gus's Corsi Off is -7.38 and Gervais's is -2.65. Their relative numbers are -1.5 (Gervais) and -.4 (Gus). Now, I am not one to put too much stock into advanced stats, but Corsi seems to be THE stat that everyone here likes to talk about when talking about advanced stats.
I stress again that I am not an expert so maybe I don't understand it, but my understanding of this stat is that when Gervais is on the ice the Flyers are at a net -1.5 shots and when Gus is on the ice they are at a net -.4 shots. Then you also look at the quality of competition, which Gus plays better competition, but Gervais plays with worse teammates. To me, this leads me to believe that just looking at the stats, these players are pretty similar. The difference in Corsi is 1 shot. Gus plays better competition but with better teammates.
Again, if I a interpreting these stats wrong please correct me because I honestly know very little about them. But if that is a correct reading of these stats, they seem to prove my point. If not, then I would revert back to my previous argument that stats don't tell the whole story (which I stick to even if these stats do support my argument).
An important corsi to look at is +- QoC, +- QoT, and Corsi Rel QoC. These are the quality of teammates and quality of competition he has played with or against. For the first two, Gustafsson has destroyed both. Gustafsson has played against the 3rd hardest opponents while Gervias had the 2nd easiest (only one who played against "easier" players was Foster). Gustafsson also kills him in Corsi REL QoC. I find these to be the most important (used these in Matt Carle and Meszaros debates) because these take into consideration playing harder opponents vs. easier. Now you take your stats into play, it goes to show how much better Gustafsson was. With worse teammates and harder competition Gustafsson promoted better overall Corsi ratings than Gervias.
But honestly, I don't think you will change your view. I do think you will stand alone on this one though. I'll be honest your the first one I have seen on the 3 other forums I am on who said they were the same, especially after how much Gustafsson dominated on his last stint. His advanced stats were one of the worse during his first stint. He brought it up to one of the best on the team.
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