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05-11-2013, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shinchanyo View Post
...wow did you ever go overboard...the remark I responded to was about us trading away gabs THIS year and how this has somehow hurt us THIS year as if gabs was producing when he clearly wasn't. I was pointing out that Gabs was terrible THIS year and I pointed this out b/c it means he would not have been any help THIS year so it really doesn't matter for the PO's THIS year if we traded Gabs bc Gabs was terrible. My comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with comparing nash to torn labrum gabs from LAST year... My comment was about saying "hey no need to lament Gabs being gone because I think we're getting more from Brassard and Moore than we would have from gabs this year". So you for some reason incorrectly thought I was comparing Gabs LAST year to nash THIS year when in reality I was making no comparison at all except maybe Gabs THIS year to what brass/Moore are giving us THIS year...which they're giving us a good deal. nash being poor has zero to do with gabs. Seriously what made you think I was making that comparison?

I literally said hell yea Nash sucks this year. I just also said that trading Gabs did nothing bad to this team because he WAS in FACT a bad, unproductive player THIS year. have I emphasized actual performance from this current year enough yet? Because I don't want more confusion.

If you think gabs would have overcome his completely unproductive invisible 2013 self and pl;ayed BETTER than brass and Moore combined have then good for you. That's your opinion then and you'd be entitled to it but I would def put my money on the idea that we have and will continue to get more out of brass and Moore than we would have from Gabs. So the idea that the Gabs trade has hurt us in these PO's I disagreed with and continue to disagree with. it hasn't hurt us. Nash underperforming (totally separate issue btw) HAS hurt us
I don't know if that will be true moving forward, but I do agree that there is no way that Gaborik would have been able to contribute in the way that Brassard has this season for us. Brassard has been our most dynamic forward in the post season in terms of creating chances, and is a big reason we even won two games. I'll give Brassard all the props in the world.

And I'll openly admit, I was a fan of Gaborik being here. Because of that, I'm not a huge fan of Nash getting a pass from fans when Gaborik just couldn't. I don't know what it's from. That year Gaborik scored over 40 goals, was later confirmed to be injured in the post season, and still contributed a whole lot more than what Nash is bringing to the table.

Than he had one bad season, and fans crucified him.

Nash has never been a winner, either in Columbus or here. He's never carried his team as the guy. And I'd stand by my statement that he wasn't even our most valuable forward during the year (Stepan) or overall (Lundqvist).

Unlike some fans here giving Nash the pass, with how we restructured our team around him and his $7.8 million contract, I do expect a lot more out of him. And he won't get a pass from me because we were literally a much better team before acquiring him (statistically).

And that isn't Nash's fault. He did have a solid season with us. It's probably more on the coaching staff and management then anything else, but Nash has to prove to me that acquiring him was the right move for the organization moving forward, he has to show me he is an elite player both in the regular season and post season, for me to give him the respect a lot of fans here willingly give him.

Again, we restructured the team around HIM, and because of that, I expect him to be our top player night in and night out. Just as I expect Lundqvist to carry the work load in net and keep us in each game we play. When you carry that star power in the NHL heavy expectations come your way, and anything less than a solid performance is unacceptable (the same applied to Gaborik for his underwhelming season this year).

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