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05-12-2013, 07:50 PM
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Frankie
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Originally Posted by scoutman1 View Post
the draft isn't a farce, i think you should do research before getting too involved in this, this is my job so I know this area way too well.....
I know this area pretty well too. you don't have the market cornered on that.

what's your job? obviously you're personally involved, so you're part of the problem. you know the draft is a farce, yet you can't or won't admit it, like all the others who work in the industry. if you admit its a farce, you're admitting that your job is a farce, and obviously you're not going to do that. its in your personal best interest to keep the charade going.

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also above to say what is the sense of scouts if agents are pumping the kids like i said well the agents we all know them, they are at all the tournaments with us, there are agents who are respected and when they say "I have a guy from PEI playing at a prep school in Ontario that is really good" well then we will go take a look at him and see what "WE" as a team think of him.
so you'll listen to an agent in this circumstance? you know he's just trying to line his own pockets, right? I assume if "his kid" gets drafted by you, it means more money for him. yet you fall for this scam and will travel to Ontario just to see "his kid"? that's weird.

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Im still scratching my head over how you think drafting a guy in the 1st round and just throwing the pick away and letting a guy go NCAA rather than a team he has a deal worked out with is going to benifit your team
if I know 100% the kid is going ncaa, I wouldn't draft him. if I suspect he's "playing the ncaa card", i'm definitely going to draft him.

as I said, i'd take my chances that 9 times out of 10, my team will benefit by taking the best player available, regards of what he and his agent are saying. either the kid will play for my team, or i'll be able to move him for a good return. and if he actually goes ncaa and I get nothing from that pick, so be it. sucks for me. but again, i'd take the risk that it wouldn't cripple my team forever. the tri-city americans missed on toews, but it didn't kill them.

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as for the agent kid thing an agent usually does not get paid untill the kid goes pro and signs a money contract then they get 4%....so they invest their money flying the kid to camps and stuff hoping in the long run he is going to pay off....not all kids have agents just the really good players do and the agents have to get them early because by the time they are 16 most of them are gone.
so a kid at age 14 or 15 signs a contract with some guy calling himself an agent that says if the kid ever happens to turn pro, this agent gets 4% of the money? that's totally absurd.

and the agent spends his own money flying the kid around at ages 14 and 15, in the hopes that some day the kid might turn pro? that sounds even more absurd. ridiculous business model. that's a far crazier risk that drafting a kid who claims he's going ncaa.

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