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05-16-2013, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jame View Post
So Oshie, Cole, Halak for Miller and Vanek

Look, it's got to hurt a little bit, right? Your adding a premier goal scorer and "name" goalie... I believe their trade value is greatly diminished because they only have 1 year remaining. If they were signed to multi year deals, this package wouldn't be enough to get ONE of them, let alone both.

I'd prefer to do Oshie for Vanek straight up

moving Stewart doesn't free up any cap space, he's a RFA.... Moving Oshie DOES free up cap space as he's under contract.

Looks like you already have 41 mil in cap space committed, but that's only with 16 players. (10F, 4D, 2G)

Your offer only removed Halak's 3.75, pushing you to almost 27 million in cap space. Cole and Stewart are RFA, and dont account for any cap space.

Now add Miller and Vanek = 13.3
Petirangelo = ~5.5
Shattenkirk = ~3.75
Berglund = ~2.75

12F, 6D, 2G = ~66 million (over the cap already)
I wouldn't mind swapping Oshie out for Stewart. I'm not huge on Oshie but I feel as the organization is. Also you aren't accounting for us trading off Elliott for assets and not re-signing some of our UFA's.

Thomas Vanek ($7.143m) / David Backes ($4.500m) / Alexander Steen ($3.363m)
David Perron ($3.813m) / Patrik Berglund ($2.400m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m)
Jaden Schwartz ($1.167m) / Vladimir Sobotka ($1.300m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($1.750m)
Adam Cracknell ($0.550m) / Chris Porter ($0.675m) / Ryan Reaves ($0.600m)
Dmitrij Jaskin ($0.894m) /
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Alex Pietrangelo ($6.500m)
Barret Jackman ($3.167m) / Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.500m)
Kris Russell ($1.300m) / Roman Polak ($2.750m)
Ryan Miller ($6.250m)
Jake Allen ($0.827m)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,302,232; BONUSES: $1,432,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,430,268

Would be ideal and super close to the cap. Also you could swap Oshie and put Stewart's name there and I really don't see any difference in contract between Oshie and Stewart, maybe he will get a little less than Osh.

But I think Blues organization would rather trade off Stewart and Rattie and have Buffalo retain some salary than trading off Oshie due to him putting butts in seats and his name on what seems like 70% of fans backs. Most of STL is made up of Cardinals fans who are casual Blues fans and let me tell you how much the casual fan in STL LOVES Oshie. I don't get it but that's just how it is around here lol.

EDIT to above post: I could see Jaskin traded in a deal to retain salary but I could see Rattie going before Jaskin does but that's simply because Jaskin fits the system more than Rattie does.

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