Thread: Rosters and Ratings: Player ratings for NHL14
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05-17-2013, 08:26 PM
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I know you put a lot of work into this.. but wtf? Ribeiro 88? Smith 88? Lecavalier 87? Kadri 85? I don't see many underrated ones but you're throwing 87+ ratings around like they're nothing. I suggest you check how many people are actually about 87 in NHL 13
By the current rosters, there are 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders to start (believe me, I'm well aware of how many of what there are. I have a spreadsheet with 121,377 data points including NHL 13 ratings). If I gave a crap about how EA sets their rosters up initially, I'd lower the ratings to make it inline with how EA originally presents the rosters. Unfortunately, many people (like you) don't seem to understand how bad EA's ratings are even to their own game engine!

Since EA decided that nearly every 3-star or higher guy who is 24 years old jumps to 80+ OVR 1 year into BAGM, displacing a solid ~15% of the NHL each year for the first few years, clearly EA's rosters are flawed for BAGM. The other flaw in EA's rosters is that any player that is currently 25 years of age or older will barely progress (if they ever do) and young players, Snipers especially, often get 99s in shooting attributes once they hit 25 years of age. This leaves many veterans at a large disadvantage from a scoring perspective. Shooting, as you may be aware, makes up a large portion of a Forward's OVR rating (Wrist Shot Accuracy and Wrist Shot Power, especially), so increasing those ratings will, obviously, increase their OVR. Lastly, scoring is WAY down in NHL 13 for BAGM, so increasing the scoring capacity of the forwards is a way to increase scoring.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR

Do you not see the problem with EA's ratings here? 80 OVR is a SECOND LINER to start! Then you have about 50 3-star or higher guys go to 80 OVR or higher after 1 year! So after 1 year, your 2nd liners are now 3rd liners, your 3rd liners are now 4th liners, and over half the 4th liners are out of a job.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings (2012-2013) vs. EA's ratings (2019-2020)
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR vs. 84-98 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR vs. 81-84 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR vs. 80-81 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR vs. 78-80 OVR

Tell me, which is closer: EA's ratings or my ratings to what the game engine dictates in BAGM mode after 8 seasons? My bottom 6 ratings are nearly perfect whereas my top 6 ratings are slightly (by 1 OVR) higher than EA's 2019-2020 ratings. Meanwhile, EA's ratings are WAY OFF! An 80 OVR guy is among the top 180 forwards (2nd liner) in the latest rosters (May 2013) and yet, after 7 seasons, an 80 OVR guy is a 3rd or 4th liner!

So, you may disagree all you want, but my ratings are done for a specific reason and they're actually far better in the BAGM engine than EA's own rosters.

BTW, Smith was a Vezina finalist last year (and ALL my ratings are 100% objective; based on statistics, no bias), Lecavalier was an 87 OVR to start NHL 13 and EA dropped him to an 86 OVR (compared to my 87 OVR! The horror!), and Ribeiro has averaged 72 points per 82 games over the past 3 seasons, the 26th most in the NHL (and, if you weren't aware, offensive awareness and passing, which Ribeiro is one of the best in the league in BOTH categories, are the second and third highest weighted attributes in the game for forwards).

I have 50 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders (so double the number of forwards and the same amount of goaltenders). EA has 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders in their May 2013 rosters. So I have double the number of forwards and the same number of goaltenders. By 2019-2020, there are 41 87+ OVR forwards and 11 87+ OVR goaltenders. Again, who's closer?

So, yeah, I guess next time I'll just pull arbitrary numbers out of my ass ...


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