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05-23-2013, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by struckbyaparkedcar View Post
Jame, Mike Weber is not a shutdown defenseman. He will probably never be a shutdown defenseman.

This is from a game against the Lightning, after we traded Regehr. He was hidden from the Stamkos/St. Louis combination as much as possible with Rolston determining the matchups.

In this game against the Islanders, also after the Regehr trade, also at home:

He barely saw Tavares, and was instead matched against the Isles' second and third lines.

Defensive zone starts do not inherently result in a higher quality of competition. Sekera-Ehrhoff was the team's actual shutdown pairing after the deadline.
Did I call him a shutdown defensemen? If I did, I should be more clear with my use of terms... I think there is a difference between a top pairing shutdown defensemen and a defensive pairing used in defensive situations (which would be to shut down the opponent, but the quality of competition would not be that of a true shutdown top pair)

I must have given the wrong impression of my opinion of Weber... I by no means meant he should be matching up against the elites and playing 20+.

But using him heavily in D zone situations against 2nd lines... is a DIFFERENT type of bottom pairing defensemen... as opposed to the offensive 3rd pairing guy who get PP minutes, and needs to be hidden from defensive situations. There is a tendancy to lump these players into the same label "3rd pairing".... i dislike the use of 2nd and 3rd pairing labels for exactly that reason.

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