Association Football Thread (New York Red Bulls, USMNT, And All Soccer Discussion)
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05-27-2013, 02:33 AM
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New York City
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NYCFC is a ****ing perfect name. Considering the switch, because following the Red Bulls has been tougher than I'd like it to be.
NY United sounds good too but I could see confusion being had with the school. Gotham FC? Empire FC? Usually when theres a club in a large city the name is more localized to the neighborhood. Chelsea, Fulham, West Ham etc.. They're all in London. There is no "London FC". This wont work as nicely in NYC because there aren't hundreds of clubs of all sizes within the city. "Harlem FC" or "Astoria United" wont have the same kind of broad appeal.
The problem with the American approach is that they're making these new clubs without any of the grassroots support and infrastructure needed. Please understand that in Europe, and England specifically, these are actual "clubs" that are intertwined with their local communities. They take in promising and gifted children and become a second family from perhaps as early as 8-9. There are club members who have a say, a real influence. The "owners" don't actually own the team in the sense that they're all powerful. You couldn't move Liverpool FC and you couldn't just build a new club in Liverpool and expect it to succeed. The MLS feels so very contrived. A cheap attempt to mooch off the success of the game in a new market. Perhaps what's more closer to Football in America is Baseball. Across the country there are thousands of clubs, from little league all the way up to senior leagues. Baseball is ubiquitous in the US in the same way Football is in the UK. It's intertwined into the nation's culture, part of it's history. Soccer in America has to be built from the bottom up, not top down. There needs to be some sort of pyramid.
Part of the problem is geography, America is too big. A small 3rd division club can't afford to travel coast to coast 20 times a season. While in the comparatively smaller European nations, a tiny club can budget in those cross country bus rides that'll take a few hours. This is why there needs to be about 5-8 regional pyramids in the US, much like conference North and South in England. Those regional leagues have their own tiers and from there nominates their best clubs to compete for entry into the larger national 2-4 tiered pyramid, who's summit is MLS. This spurs a more local and competitive spirit between players fans and clubs. You feel more connected and loyal to Pelham Bay F.C. Then you would NYCFC. If your local team is good enough for long enough they'll find themselves at the top. There there'll be more money for players, facilities and all the other goodies. And oh the thrill you feel in seeing your team make the first division! It's like raising your child and watching him/her succeed. But this only works of course if there is a passion for the sport. A passion that'll make you want to sit in some measly 2000 seat stadium and watch your neighborhood club play in the freezing rain and snow. This passion (for soccer at least) doesn't exist yet in America though. But it does for gridiron football. NCAA D-1 football is surprisingly similar to the European model when you think about it.
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